Support Group - Stillbirths

Dear Steph, I am still on my 'maternity' leave and am free to meet up anyday. (how ironic - I've no baby to take care and show yet I'm on 'maternity' leave
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) Since most of you have gone back to work, I guess we can only meet in the evening for dinner? How about Vivocity (since Patsy and Steph work around that vincinity)...Estbaby, Roiv, Java, Chloe, Momoko, Lyn and all who are reading this post are welcomed too...

Btw, to keep myself occupied, I've booked a 'confinement' massage lady for 10 sessions starting Monday (kind recommendation of Steph - thanks!)...looking forward to it
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. Am thinking of attending driving refresher course too at a Driving Centre...(haven't driven in years! Dun dare to drive now...Also thought of going for a short tour (e.g to Phuket or Bali) but hubby can't take leave...wish can find a travelmate...anyone free?
 


hi angel... would be great to meet up!

steph: have a great time in Hanoi.... have a great bowl of pho on our own behalf! and am sure the Lord will bless you with a beautiful baby soon....
 
Hello from Hanoi again..

Once again it was the business dinners that are always too long and too much food. typical business entertainment. Had a chance to walk around and it was actually quite beautiful. Didn't get to eat pho .. so maybe for breakfast tom.

hey angel, do let me know how the massage is? I am addicted to her massage after confinment and i actually had it for a whole month.. talk about indulgence!!
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now i have regular monthly sessions with her too. hey, for driving actually everyone is bugging me to continue with my practical lessons. Had to stop cos became preggie with gabriel the other time. But i got phobia cos of bad experience with instructor.

How about dinner next Friday??
 
Angel, I understand how u feel. I just ended my "maternity leave" last week. My gynae gave me HOSPITALISATION leave (1 month) and MEDICAL LEAVE (15 days). My company is kind enough to recognize my case as "MATERNITY" leave and allow me to take 3 months but I decided to return to work early as the more I cope myself at home the more I would brood over my poor Gabriel. At least by working, I can keep my brain active...I wish I could join you for traveling as I love traveling but no $$ as spent quite abit on my recent Phuket trip..
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Java, exactly!! Good suggestion on the T-Shirt idea.., at least I dun have to answer them anything
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My MIL also told me on the part that Also cannot raise ur arms above your head and not toss and turn too abruptly during sleep. Luckily they are very supportive and I am glad that they didnt blame me for losing my Gabriel.

As for meeting up, my workplace is at Tuas, I probably need more traveling time to VIVO if its confirmed..
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Hello! everyone,

Sounds good to meet up all of you. Vivocity is fine but I would also need some travelling time depending on whether I can knock off on time.
 
guess what? I'm only starting work the week after next. yah lobo for 2 months already. I love to meet at Vivocity, but I'm not sure if I will be free on Friday, coz I maybe flying to Redang for that weekend. Yah want to bring my boy for holiday before I start work.
 
Hi all

I envy those of you with at least 1 child to call your own and have no problems conceiving another...Me, I have NONE and gynae already hinted that I may never be able to carry through a FULL TERM pregnancy...On days when I feel down, I'll tend to pick fights with hubby over the most trivial things cos there are so much unresolved hurts and anger within me (not towards him, more towards God)..This baby issue is casting a shadow in our marriage cos we can't seem to get over it .
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To fill the void left by our babies' death, adoption, I plucked up the courage to call an agency today (saw the ad in TNP). The lady quoted us $25K for either a Malaysian or Indonesian baby but we have to do a homestudy first which takes about 6 weeks...ladies, should I go ahead and adopt a baby so soon? The sum's not small too and honestly speaking may be a drain on our finances...I feel so disappointed at my own barreness, I've let my hubby down, I've left my family down, his family down and my babies down...sometimes I detest my own existence...
 
Angel
I am also not able to carry through a full term pregnancy due to cervic incompetence. From my gynae, the most we carry through might be 36 or 37 wks. I give birth to my ger at 34+2 gestation while my sister just delivered her ger at 35+4 gestation.

I believe that by having a early cerclage done, we still can have our own bb. Consult your gynae about it dun give up hopes too soon.
 
Dear Angel,
my two cents worth is this: you can conceive, not that you cant. Ladies including myself with i/c cervix just have to be mentally prepared to give birth to a premmie. In most cases where an early cerclage is done, 30-36 weeks shldnt be a problem. Even a 28 weeker today will go on to become a normal developing child. So many premmies around, healthy and fun. So we shldnt let i/c thwart our plans of having our own.

Dont get me wrong, i have nothing against adoption too. I even thought of surrogacy at first. But now i realise that is an extreme resort and it is not cheap as well. Similarly, for adoption, the cost is equivalent to doing 3 ivfs!

Sincerely, i have absolute confidence that we will succeed one day. We may have to break down the "cost" in terms of cerclage fees, medical leaves after the surgery, opportunity cost of resting at home instead of going to work thereby maybe forgoing promotion or even sales time, then the nicu stay, medical bill.. These are but extrinsic factors.

Intrinsic factor is our mental ups and downs. I am considering to go for hypnotism class, so that i can control the fear and not the other way round. It is all in the mind, isnt it?

Angel, as i/c victims, i always tell myself i am already lucky in the sense i know what my problem is. Next preg, just fix this damn problem.

Sorry i got carried away.
 
hi angel,
*pat, pat* I was very angry with myself for having such unhealthy body too. I myself can NEVER (already scientifically proven) carry beyond 36 weeks with or without medication. My 2 pregs failed at 35 weeks, so in my 3rd preg, I just deliver at 34 weeks. Aaron spend 9 days in NICU. He is slightly slower than his peers in terms of mental development. Only started walking at 16 months and until now can't talk yet (he is 18 months). Just have to accept that all my babies are gonna be premmies, if I even dare to try for another one that is. I think I PM you before asking if you have tried doing immune testing or ask your hubby to go for an infections test. Was your case due to incompetent cervix? If not, I think your body sees the foetus as a foreign body and tries to reject it. Why not try going to another gynae for second opinion? I still think you might have chance for a successful pregnancy. I wrote to you before about my UK fren who lost her babies at 31 weeks (due to preclampsia), twins (one at 10 weeks, the other at 24 weeks) and subsequently had 7 miscarriages. She kept thinking the problem lies with her, even went for IVIG, immune testing, etc. At the end, they found out that it was an infection at her hubby's side. The hubby and herself took some medication and in her subsequent pregnancy, she manage to deliver at full 40 weeks! So don't give up hope!

Hi sylvia,
Hypnotism? DId you read the Life section in the ST? This Shankar guy found a way to attain inner peace through rythmic breathing, yoga and meditation. Maybe you can try that.
 
Halo Java, never come across that. Heard of what yoca and meditation can do. I think not quite the same as hypno. What i wish to achieve is to become "nonchalant" to my pregnancy. Ie, to behave as if i am not pregnant. U know how mind boggling it can be. And i believe this is a powerful tool cos only if we have peace of mind can we be positive, and then enjoy the preg. It sounds absurd but it is possible. I know of certified hpnotist who charges 50-100 per session of hypnotism. To be effective, it takes a course of 5 or 6 sessions.

Ey, so u are back from your Harris getaway. Had a great time?
 
Hi angle,
Try not to think too much now. Make use of these 3 month to nurse your health. It is very important to have a healthy body to have a smooth sailing pregnancy. My sister used to see TCM after her two miscarriage to tiao her body before she TTC again.
 
Hi Angel,

On the subject of adoption.. I just wanted to say that if you feel you have so much love to share and you want to share it with someone whom might not receive such motherly love, then i think it will be a blessing for the both of you
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As long as you and hubby can treat this special child the same way as all the other children, that i am sure u will be blessed with
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Do think through it.. but never think that you are letting you are letting your hubby, ur family down and especially your babies down. It is easy, for mummies like us to think that its us. In fact, sometimes i want to think its me, so that next time i can do something about it and change outcomes. But after many sessions of conselling therapy, ihave come to accept that although it is hard to accept that we as humans are not in control, that is the unfortunate truth.

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone here...
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Hi! Angel,

Just my personal opinion, about adoption give yourself sometime to think through it, take some time to ponder and absorb. I am sure that you will give unlimited motherly love to your adopted child but I feel you should seek 2nd opinion about your health status before engaging further. Now is just the trying times for you and your hubby emotionally, I am sure both of you will cross this hurdle and move on.

You are not letting anyone down as you also do not wish for things to happen this way. We tend to think that it is our fault as we are the ones carrying the baby in our womb. as steph mentioned we are not in control and there is nothing we can do.

Meantime, it might be good to do something to destress yourself. Get out of the house, go for some meditation or meet up some friends etc. I am doing regular yoga weekly and I find that it helps to keep me sane.
 
Hi Angel and all other mummies who lost your babies. It's me again, Eunice.

All your encounters always set my eyes with tears after reading.

Stay strong although easy to say and yet hard to do but pls try.

I may not be of any expert, but if you do want to have a chat with someone, can MSN me. My contact for MSN is at [email protected]

E-mail is [email protected]

To Angel,

If you think you not ready to adopt 1 child, how about sponsoring a child from poorer countries that World Vision is supporting.

World Vision Singapore 10 Anson Road, #13-08 International Plaza, Singapore, 079903, Phone (65) 6221-1040 Email: [email protected]

Monthly contribution is S$25. You get to write to your sponse child and they will write back too. But the sponsorship (hopefuly) is at least 10 yrs. If you are ready, give them a call.
 
Hi everyone ...

Good morning.. Sorry i can't make it to meet up this friday already. Hubby good friend visiting Singapore. SHall we target to meet up next week?
 
Hi! Steph,

I also cant make it this friday as I have a doctor's appt.

Hi! Fairytale,

You are welcome to join in.
 
Dear Fairytale

it's kinda weird to 'welcome' someone to this thread but we're here as an kind of psychological and emotional support for one another here. I'm sad to hear of your loss...no mummies should ever have to go through the grief of losing her child(ren)...perhaps you'll like to share with us what happened?

Eunice, thanks for recommending World Vision. I heard abt them too. An ex-colleague of mine is sponsoring a child from Philippines and she writes to her 'adopted' daughter frequently. For us, we're hoping to adopt a baby when we're more emotionally and financially ready...my years of fertility treatments, coupled with the recent long stay at KKH and Ashley's NICU expenses have depleted our bank a/c by a fair bit and we still end up with NOTHING
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Sylvia, Chloegal, Java, Estbaby, Steph and all,
thanks for always being there to comfort and encourage me when I'm having one of my downward mood swings. The days are not getting better though I'm due to report for work soon (1 Aug). Yesterday hubby and I visited my babies' niche at Mandai and immediately, my tears flowed like a broken dam...I've so much to tell my babies, but no words could come out of my mouth...I'm so broken...Hubby blew some bubbles for our 3 babies and also for Sabie whose niche is just few 'doors' away...as we look at the bubbles disappearing, it's like sending our love and wishes to our babies through the air...

It's ok that we can't meet up this Friday. I'll be going away for a short trip next Mon (16-23 Jul) Pity my hubby can't take leave so am going with mum and granny only (we've booked on a group tour to Hokkaido). I really need that break-away to recompose my thoughts and rekindle my will to live. Perhaps let's aim to meet up for a meal last week of July before i resume work?
 
Hi Fairytale,

My heart goes out to you.

Its heart breaking to see new member here. We'll definately welcome you.

Take care,
Miss_my_Angel
 
Hi Fairytale,

My Gabriel is also at Choa Chu Kang ... to be near my grandfather. Are you choosing the Garden or Remembrance? It is so lovely. Gabriel is at the chinese side cos my grandfather is there. I visit Gabriel every sat so if i can visit your angel as well, it would be nice. Gabriel is at Eugeina Block.

Angel.. i know what you mean.. sigh. We have so much to say right? Wanted to share how me and my hubby found it quite diffcult also.. that's why although we go to visit gabriel together, we have somehow came up with a way to have private moments with our son. After saying hi to gabriel and giving him a nice wipe down, sometimes each of us will just visit my grandfather alone, giving some time for either me or hubby to speak to gabriel privately. I don't know if it is the same for every couple but me and hubby grieve differently so having separate moments does help.

We buy toys for our little boy and minature food too! so on a special ocassion like his angel day or his birthday, we give him something special!! This Friday would be his 6th month birthday and i am wondering how he looks like now
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Enough of my ramblings.. hugs hugs
 
haiz! yet another sad mummy here...

Fairytale - feel free to relate to us here, pour out your woes and grieve here.

Angel - That's good idea to go for holiday! Hope you will feel a little better after a nice break! We can arrange to meet when you are back.

Not sure if anyone here experience this. I tried posting this in the miscarriage thread but no response. It has been almost 5 mths since I lost my baby. Finally, my mense is back to normal cycle but funny thing is I have yellow (instead of clear or white) discharge during ovulation for the past 2 cycle. Have any of you experience this? Is it normal?? I have called my gynae to ask but she was not there and the nurse say that it could be infection. In fact, I havent been on good health eversince, getting dizzy spells, headaches etc so had finally pluck up the courage to see TCM this coming friday to find out if I am healthy to TTC again.

Did anyone here watch the news yesterday about a mother who died after giving birth to twins? It reminded me of my last time when I lost my baby.
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cos I too had massive blood loss..
 
Hi Etsbaby,

Yes, saw the news last night. Its after the C-Section I heard. Definately very tough for the hubby. Wonder which hosp*t*l...

Life is really unpredictable, after what that had happened to me in my life, I learnt not to take happiness for granted. To treasure everything I have. I thought I am stong enough to face the truth but I am wrong. Today while having my lunch, some insensitive colleague of mine started to brag about their new born, even asked me to look at their baby's photo. At that moment, I am lost for words, I am controlling very very hard and even have to pretend to smile (I dun want to burst out infront of them). But the moment I am back alone in the office, I burst out crying!! Why can't they be more sensitive? I just lost my baby!!
 
hi mummies, how is everyone? it's bittersweat to have so many of us acive here... how come so many of us have to suffer the most painful loss of all?

Miss_my_angel, do not let others insensitivity affect you so much.

Angel, have a good holiday! enjoy yourself and try to keep happy thoughts, ok? I'll put flowers for your babies, don't worry, ok? Thanks for the bubbles! Sabie must have been clapping her hands in heaven and trying to catch the bubbles!

steph: catch up for lunch soon!! vivo awaits!
 
Hi everyone..

Good morning!

Roiv - so sorry to hear what had happened. I think maybe you can walk away when they start talking about their babies? I think some people have very thick skulls so being subtle just doesn't get to them. My counseller told me that i could also talk about my boy when they mention their children cos he is forever my child mah! That's a bit morbid, but when i tried it, they actually became very keen on talking about gabriel.

I didn't see the news story.. so sad!! was it becos of blood loss?
 
Roiv - I know how you feel as I too feel the same way. I just have to be "transparent" and hide when such situation arise. People just think that after so long, I would have forgotten the pain, the pain will only lessen but forgotten.

About the mummy twins case, I think it is at Raffles hospital and I think the news last nite reports that it is due to complication of the blood transfusion. I was fortunate that I didnt needed blood transfusion as my gynae manage to stop the running tap.

I am going to see my gynae today to do a check, nurse at clinic says most likely there is an infection....it's a never ending story for me.
 
Hi Angel,

No prob. Actually I now sponsoring a girl in Mongolia so I have the info.

Do you still need anymore financial help?
 
Hi Steph

the massage was good but extremely painful for me cos my water retention is really bad (according to Caroline) and she charged me $90 per session (for first 3 sessions) to use a special cream to rid the water retention. Subsequent sessions are $60 each...It's expensive so I'm only gonna do 5 sessions. Actually hesitated in getting a masseur but I think my body needs the confinement massage for it to shrink back and function as normal...

Eunice, thanks for your offer in financial help...we are still ok...just have to start saving all over again...hopefully, if the sales of our flat goes through, may have some excess cash to 'buy' a baby from those agencies beginning '08. Their asking price? $25K-30K. wish we dun have to go down this route but we're taking 1 step at a time...

The twin mummy's case was indeed depressing, her twins managed to survive but they'll grow up without a mother and their daddy without a wife. Life can be so cruel at times...
 
Hi Angel,

Wah.. it must have been very painful. After gabriel left us, i was in so much pain cos of not sleeping well, worrying etc.. that the first session i had with her, i was basically grinding my teeth. its not cheap but i think it helps.

For $25 to $30k, it is prob a baby from overseas right?
 
Hi Ladies,

I'm also one of the sad MTB...

I been following up on this forum and reading with silence. I understand all the agony and sadness that you all had gone thru.
I had miscarriage in last year December, and lose my twins at 23 weeks. I also had low lying placenta and imcompetent cervic.
My waterbag was burst during my office hours, and was admitted to hospital immediately. The babies still inside and had heartbeat. I keep begging the doctor to save my twins . Stayed in hospital for 1 week, and keep praying that my bbs can be strong and stay inside the womb till 28 weeks. But my nightmare had start one fine night, just of sudden, I was having high fever and diagnosed with infection. Doc say I must terminate my pregnancy immediately or else my life will be in danger. My greatest regret is I didn't get to see my babies, as I know their images will linger in my mind forever. I just blame myself for this unfortunate m/c, as during my pregnancy, I just take ppl advice lightly and take things for granted and walk too much. As I don't believe in those 'pantang' or superstitious advice from elders, and just do things in my own way. Thinking that I'm in 2nd trimester and m/c chances is slim. How naive of me... I'm relieved that I'm still alive in this world.

It's been 8 months since m/c and I haven't had any intimate relationship with my hubby. Our relationship is drifting part since m/c. We will quarrel over trivial matters. I been asking myself why life is it so unfair, why other ppl can carry pregnancy till full term, and yet I can't! I really very very sad and very angry when I see preggy ladies and babies. No one can understand my situation, and colleagues is so insensitive. I had 3 preggy neighbours now and everyday seeing them is just like stabbing a knife in my heart. I'm only 28 and still don't understand why do I have this misfortune.

Doc gave me two months of hospitalisation leave. When I'm back to office, there's no sensitive questions being asked. But feel sad when saw my preggy colleague which suppose to due two months later than me. I just don't understand, why some ppl don't appreciate their pregnancy, my colic is a heavy smoker and she still smokes despite all the warnings and lectures from elders. She is really lucky as she gave birth to healthy bb. Life is so unfair towards all of us. Life is just a cycle and all of us are here on the earth to fulfill the earth population. I also like you all, without children, my marriage life is incomplete.

Well, as days pass by, I just continue to work till late night, rest, sleep, eat, shopping, work... and I don't look forward for weekend anymore. Just too many preggy ladies and bbs all around, and really hate it! Why can't God fulfill our only wish, we just wish to join the journey of motherhood..........

Can I join in your all next gathering?

Shall you need someone to talk to, you can PM me. I desperately need someone to talk to..
 
{{HUGS}} qoo_gal88,

We have all gone thru the same or similar experience as you have. Maybe you and your hubby go for a short holiday to take a breather?

Feel free to PM me, should you need someone to talk to or you can talk to us here, which ever you feel comfortable.

You are welcome to our gathering.
 
Hi goo gal 88,

Big big hugs and hugs... like etsbaby said, feel free to talk to us here. Of cos you are welcome to our gathering!!

Etsbaby - how was the medical check up?
 
Dearest goo gal,

your experience is so similar to mine - losing our twins so I can identify with every emotions and thought-processes you are going through...I find it hard to face the world too - too many things that remind us of our immense loss and so little people who REALLY understands...During my confinement leave, I've been retreating into books. Recently, 2 books I've ordered from Kino came - 'Grieving the child I never knew' and 'An empty cradle, a full heart' (Google them on Amazon.com). Somehow, when we are grieving, it's hard to find words to express our inner turmoils, and at times, we may even find our hubbies fail us too and we snap at them for no apparant reasons (well, at least I did)...so I turn to some of these good authors to lend me that much-needed voice of sorrow and solace...

Do feel free to drop in here often and leave your thoughts, the mummies here do check the postings regularly and offer advice and encouragement. When I was at my lowest, this forum was my outlet...

I'll be going away on my own (without my hubby) tomorrow morning in an attempt to recharge my spirits. Let's set a time and place to meet one another when I return (23/7). Hugs to all.
 
Angel Hope you have a happy trip.

Dear mummies who have lost your babies, I can tell you, even though I have one boy with me now, but having lost my elder, I still will feel envious and jealous when seeing others who have smooth pregnancies, and also with as many kids as they like. It seems just so easy for them. But it is never easy for me. I have lost one, and my 2nd boy is also premature, and he has medical conditions.

I will ask why why why, why is this happening to me too. Haiz...

Doctor also told me the chance of me having full term pregnancy is very little, but nevertheless, I still will like to try for my 3rd. But after 2 labor, it seems like my health has deteriorates. I really wonder if i can manage my 3rd pregnancy...haiz.

All the best to us all.
 
hi Angie! great bumping into you and David at Mandai earlier!! Thanks for the flowers for Sabie! I will set up the basket for you to be able put a bigger bunch next week, ok? Have a good trip and eat all the yummy japanese food you can!!!!

KKF, I too hope God will bless you with a healthy child soon. keep faith in His goodness, ok?
 
To all the mommies here, this is for u by steven curtis chapman. hope its of some comfort for u.

WITH HOPE

this is not at all how
we thought its supposed to be
we had so many plans for u
we had so many dreams
and now u've gone away
and left us with the memories of ur smile
and nothing we can say
can take away the pain
the pain of losing u
but... we can cry with hope
we can say goodbye with hope
cause we know our goodbye is not the end
and we can grieve with hope
cause we believe with hope
there's a place by God's grace
there's a place where we'll see ur face again
we'll see ur face again
and never have i known
anything so hard to understand
and never have i questioned more
the wisdom of God's plan
but thru my clouds of tears
i see the Father's smile and say well done
and i imagine u
where u wanted most to be
seeing all ur dreams come true
cause now u're home
and now u're free
and we have this hope as an anchor
cause we believed that everything
God has promised us is true so....
we wait with hope
and we ache with hope
we hold on with hope
and we let go with hope

our babies may have left us, but they r actually only a heartbeat away from us. our hearts r still beating in the same rythm as theirs. and with the hope we will see them again one day, we shall live on strong.

angel, healing takes time. in fact we will never be able to heal completely. we just learn to live with it. hope u r well and have an enjoyable trip. glad that u made the decision to go for holi and give urself a break.

patsy
i trust all is well with u right?
 
Hi Angel,

Thanks for letting me know abt this thread..for a while, i wonder why the other thread was quiet...

I am expecting my 3rd AF today...a tiny bit of happiness there...at least i know i am getting back my normal cycle again.

I work near vivo and would like to join the gathering if it is still on..please keep me informed.

For those who dont know me..just a brief sharing of my experience in ttc journey. i had 3 mcs in a year, i didnt managed to carry each pregnancy to 3 months. It was either terminated with no heartbeat or self-terminated for various reasons...till now i sometimes wonder what exactly went wrong...i dont think i will ever find out....but time is a great healer...dont you agree angel? dont be angry with god...i was in the past, and now i still feel a tiny bit of anger towards him...but i guess we have to let go and move on...life is a reality...whether we like it or not, life goes on....we just have to bear with the unfairness and injustices in life to carry on....

massage is a great idea....i am a sucker for massage....you could also check out jetstar or tigerway for cheap tickets to bali/phuket/BBK for good n cheap massages..
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hi qoogal

Do u remember me? We got to know each other at the IVF thread. i read about what happened to u last year, but din respond to it cos i too was rather overwhelmed with the happenings to myself. i had triplets, and lost 1. My surviving babies spent 6 weeks in the NICU. u can drop me a PM, but do let me know that u have done so in this forum cos i seldom access my email. My response may be rather slow though, now that i'm back at work.

It was a very bad period over at that thread, cos not only u, but i remember there was another MTB also lost her baby. It was indeed a very stormy period for the few of us over at that thread.

Time flies, but i'm sure the pain is still there. Hey, dun blame urself yar? It is really nobody's fault and i'm sure ur hubby is also not feeling any better. Do empathise with each other and build ur relationship from there.

angel, agree with u, qoogal's situation was very much similar with u. If i am not wrong, qoogal was also under Dr S F Loh (qoogal, did i remember correctly??)

angel, do take this opportunity to re-charge urself. u've gone thru a lot and u need the trip to get away from this place. Hokkaido, hmmm.... that's somewhere i always wanted to go. Remember to update us yar? i will love to know where are the places to go in hokkaido!
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Gals, i dun think i could join u. Thanks angel for including me, but i dun think i am emotionally strong enough for a face-to-face gathering... well, can update me over at this forum, i will be glad to read ur postings to find out how everybody is coping.
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Hi mama to 5Js
You have the cd "with hope".I want to buy but can't find.Pastor lend it to me to listen.Return him already but would like to buy one.
 
hi mama to 5j's.. am great... thanks! getting myself mentally prepared to go to mandai next friday coz it's sabie's 100 day anniv.
 
Hi! Steph,

Thanks for asking. The check up is fine. The yellow substance is actually infection. My gynae just clean me up and give me some oral medication to take. But she also tells me that my uterus is dropping so she advise that I do regular pelvic exercise to strengthen the muscle there.

Also, I went to see a chinese sinseh on Friday just to check if I am ok to ttc. She say I am ok to concieve but would require chinese medication to help the process as I am weak. Maybe I should rest for a while more before TTC cos I dun have the time to brew the chinese herbs everyday.

Anyone got good chinese sinseh to recommend that doesnt require brewing of herbs?
 

Hi everyone...

Angel - Hope that you have a good holiday and come back rested and relaxed! and yes, dun forget the yummy food!!

Estbaby - don't know of any sinseh to recommend who doesn't need to brew herbs but i did hear of one that is in the east who was recommended to me by a friend. seems that he helped some pple "bu" their wombs. if you want the contact, i can ask my friend
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Am planning to organise a gathering when angel is back. Anyone got other suggestions other than vivocity?
 
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