GBOB actually for my #1, I tried without epi too but as she was an induced case, the pain is actually worse and because i try to tahan the pain, i ended up being stressed myself and this cause my dilation to slow down... after 2 hrs of just being at 4cm, gynae told me don't be hero cos i'm obviously being in stressful mode and i may just cause bb to be in distress as my dilation refuse to grow so i gave in to epi and true enough, once epi kick in, after another 2 -3 hr, i went into full dilation and can deliver my bb... for 2nd one, the nurse check me at 5cm and say will come back to check me in an hour and if i want epi still can but who knows after 30 mins, nurse rush in and check and say oh it has gone to 7cm liao so too late for epi and given the case, i will likely deliver in an hour and less than 40 mins, bb came out.... so i think also must listen to nurse and gynae advise...