Mummies in Australia?
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lynzi,
The application process is not too difficult, just follow the instructions accordingly.
My older girl is attending public primary sch in the area that I'm staying in. She's currently in Yr 3. Pri sch ed here is more relax. Everyday, my girl just looks forward to go sch to play wif her mates.
Athlete,
I heard so many stories abt property agents. Think it comes down to luck when dealing wif property agents. Some r lucky to get good ones, unlucky ones like me get tough ones.
The application process is not too difficult, just follow the instructions accordingly.
My older girl is attending public primary sch in the area that I'm staying in. She's currently in Yr 3. Pri sch ed here is more relax. Everyday, my girl just looks forward to go sch to play wif her mates.
Athlete,
I heard so many stories abt property agents. Think it comes down to luck when dealing wif property agents. Some r lucky to get good ones, unlucky ones like me get tough ones.
They dun hv tests or exams in pri sch. Hmmm... no homework actually. Only daily reading (they need to read 1 book everyday). My girl started Yr2 here last year, every fortnight, she got this spelling test (abt 20 words). Same goes for this year.
For Yr 3, 5 & & 7, the kids attempt a National Assessment Program - Literacy and Numeracy (NAPLAN). The literacy tests focus on reading n comprehension of different types of information from stories n articles, the correct use of language - esp spelling, punctuation n grammer, writing text types such as narrative, an explanation or a recount. The numeracy tests focus on the basic number skills of addition, subtraction, multiplication n division, the knowledge of some fractions n decimals, percentages, shapes, measurements n interpretation of data contained in charts n graphs.
The NAPLAN tests r not aptitude or intelligence tests. So even if the kids don't do well, they r not going to be down-graded or kick out of sch.
For Yr 3, 5 & & 7, the kids attempt a National Assessment Program - Literacy and Numeracy (NAPLAN). The literacy tests focus on reading n comprehension of different types of information from stories n articles, the correct use of language - esp spelling, punctuation n grammer, writing text types such as narrative, an explanation or a recount. The numeracy tests focus on the basic number skills of addition, subtraction, multiplication n division, the knowledge of some fractions n decimals, percentages, shapes, measurements n interpretation of data contained in charts n graphs.
The NAPLAN tests r not aptitude or intelligence tests. So even if the kids don't do well, they r not going to be down-graded or kick out of sch.
I used to study in Perth n Perth is nearer to Sg compared to other states (in case we need to travel back n forth during the initial years, its cheaper), although most of my friends have migrated to Mel or Syd n most find that job opportunities over eastern side is prob higher than in Perth. Also, my husband prefers to live in Perth.
Every place has its own plus n minus points. It really depends what kind of lifestyle u wanna lead. Most people reaction abt Perth is "so boring, slow, etc..." Perth is only a small part of Western Australia, WA is huge, so there is really quite a lot of things u can do n explore over here.
Every place has its own plus n minus points. It really depends what kind of lifestyle u wanna lead. Most people reaction abt Perth is "so boring, slow, etc..." Perth is only a small part of Western Australia, WA is huge, so there is really quite a lot of things u can do n explore over here.
PeachBB
I got my job quickly. IT was my first job applied and i got it. Let me not scare you, but i know of people who has been here for years and STILL jobless.
There are a lot of jobless people here. So you be prepared. IF you can find a job, then it is good. If not, then find alternative.
Don't place too high hopes.
I got my job quickly. IT was my first job applied and i got it. Let me not scare you, but i know of people who has been here for years and STILL jobless.
There are a lot of jobless people here. So you be prepared. IF you can find a job, then it is good. If not, then find alternative.
Don't place too high hopes.
joetsang101
Member
Need Advice from Any mummies here!!!
My PR going to expire next year! Not ready to go Australia yet, cos just give birth to new born..
Anyone know if can extend PR for another 5yrs , what reason best? how and where to do so ???
Appreciate advice!!
My PR going to expire next year! Not ready to go Australia yet, cos just give birth to new born..
Anyone know if can extend PR for another 5yrs , what reason best? how and where to do so ???
Appreciate advice!!
jolene3000
New Member
mngo
tks for sharing. i guess it is heng and suay. The aus seek website has so many vacancies, just wondering why still so high jobless rates.
tks for sharing. i guess it is heng and suay. The aus seek website has so many vacancies, just wondering why still so high jobless rates.
jolene3000
New Member
i am a PR and moving over to australia end of year. It is worrying to hear of that.
joetsang101
Member
Hi Any mommies , here extend at local(SG) Aus- Embassy and is successful, please share.
Also I wonder, if I were to bring my baby there just before it expire (next year), does it mean cannot return to SG, after staying there for two years
Also I wonder, if I were to bring my baby there just before it expire (next year), does it mean cannot return to SG, after staying there for two years
joe
if you bring your bb before it expires, you CAN return to Singapore, BUT you will come back as Tourist if you had not stay in Australia for 2 years.
After you have stayed here for 2 years (or rather , you have clock up 2 years of stay), then you could apply RRV (resident return visa) which allows you to travel out of AU, and return as PR.
if you bring your bb before it expires, you CAN return to Singapore, BUT you will come back as Tourist if you had not stay in Australia for 2 years.
After you have stayed here for 2 years (or rather , you have clock up 2 years of stay), then you could apply RRV (resident return visa) which allows you to travel out of AU, and return as PR.
joetsang101
Member
Hi mngo,
As I dun have local experience.. will have to look for a job.
If brings my two kids along and while looking for a job.. is there any allowance from gov? and for how long?
As I dun have local experience.. will have to look for a job.
If brings my two kids along and while looking for a job.. is there any allowance from gov? and for how long?
nnchander
Member
hi Joe
i arrived with my children with just a few months to spare before our visa expired
However, my husband had already been in Perth for about 1.5 years to settle in. So 2 months before expiry, we applied for a RRV. I think if my husband had not already found a job, we might not have been able to extend our PR.
If you come over with kids, there will be some tax rebates for the family. You can check out www.centrelink.gov.au for more information.
As soon as you have found a job, it'll be easier to convince the immigration dept that you are keen to live in Australia and applying for the RRV would not be so difficult.
i arrived with my children with just a few months to spare before our visa expired
If you come over with kids, there will be some tax rebates for the family. You can check out www.centrelink.gov.au for more information.
As soon as you have found a job, it'll be easier to convince the immigration dept that you are keen to live in Australia and applying for the RRV would not be so difficult.
I am planning to move over in early 2011. It is so worrying to hear that it is not easy if you do not have "local" experience.
By the way, may I ask some of the working mummies, is it worthwhile to continue working (financially) while the children/child is in childcare? I heard that the childcare is very expensive and difficult to secure a place. Say I am on an average pay of $55k/annum, is it still worthwhile go to work?
By the way, may I ask some of the working mummies, is it worthwhile to continue working (financially) while the children/child is in childcare? I heard that the childcare is very expensive and difficult to secure a place. Say I am on an average pay of $55k/annum, is it still worthwhile go to work?
Woof,
It depends actually. Is your hubby going to work and is he going to earn high income?
If he is going to earn high income, you may wanna look after your kid.
If he is not going to earn a lot, and with single income , if it is hard to get by, you may want to consider working
It depends actually. Is your hubby going to work and is he going to earn high income?
If he is going to earn high income, you may wanna look after your kid.
If he is not going to earn a lot, and with single income , if it is hard to get by, you may want to consider working
<font color="aa00aa">hi mummies..
seems that i missed out a lot.
havent been able to access the forum for some time.
sad news is, me and hubby thinks our plan to migrate will have to kiv for some time as we just got major, major setback and we are also int he midst of embarking on a new biz venture.</font>
seems that i missed out a lot.
havent been able to access the forum for some time.
sad news is, me and hubby thinks our plan to migrate will have to kiv for some time as we just got major, major setback and we are also int he midst of embarking on a new biz venture.</font>
lynzi
You need to think why u guys want to migrate.
You also have to be prepared for joblessness.
And prepared for helplessness (means no help).
If you are doing well in singapore, you might want to give up your plan to migrate totally.
I know that a lot of people want to migrate JUST because they want to follow other people doing so.
Some of them want to migrate JUST because they think it is easy life in Australia.
Think carefully.
You need to think why u guys want to migrate.
You also have to be prepared for joblessness.
And prepared for helplessness (means no help).
If you are doing well in singapore, you might want to give up your plan to migrate totally.
I know that a lot of people want to migrate JUST because they want to follow other people doing so.
Some of them want to migrate JUST because they think it is easy life in Australia.
Think carefully.
Basically those who wants to migrate, should consider this aspects.
1. Ask yourself WHY are you migrating.
2. Are you WILLING to take the risk that you can be worse off than you were. Example long period of joblessness. What is your backup plan?
3. Are you willing to sacrifice certain aspects. Some people give up high paying jobs, job security. "Quality" education for the kids.
4. Can you survive long periods of aloneness, and lack of family support, and mentally strong enough to take whatever comes. Periods of self doubt.
5. Can you survive without a maid?
6. May not afford the big house that you dream about, becos the cost is almost same as singapore?
7. Do you have at least 30 to 40 K aud to make sure you are able to buy the car, buy all the sundary items/beddings etc, shipping cost etc, fittings, furnitures (for rental place) and some basic spending money.
8. If you do not have a ready job, do you have 1 year money to pay for rental and to survive 1 year. Eg. 1 month for 2 bedder at a decent place, 25 km from the city is around 1.3 K a month to 2K+ a month nearer to the city.
1. Ask yourself WHY are you migrating.
2. Are you WILLING to take the risk that you can be worse off than you were. Example long period of joblessness. What is your backup plan?
3. Are you willing to sacrifice certain aspects. Some people give up high paying jobs, job security. "Quality" education for the kids.
4. Can you survive long periods of aloneness, and lack of family support, and mentally strong enough to take whatever comes. Periods of self doubt.
5. Can you survive without a maid?
6. May not afford the big house that you dream about, becos the cost is almost same as singapore?
7. Do you have at least 30 to 40 K aud to make sure you are able to buy the car, buy all the sundary items/beddings etc, shipping cost etc, fittings, furnitures (for rental place) and some basic spending money.
8. If you do not have a ready job, do you have 1 year money to pay for rental and to survive 1 year. Eg. 1 month for 2 bedder at a decent place, 25 km from the city is around 1.3 K a month to 2K+ a month nearer to the city.
mngo
thanks for responding; we do not know how much would be be offered in australia- as we had found out that "local" experience means the world to them. this is despite that hubby and I have about ten years of post-grad experience in our professions back in singapore. both have us have aus degrees. We think that this is a way of "protectionism" to the local workforce, which is good for ppl who are there already. but pose some barrier to newbies like us
That is why i based on the average annual income that I found out, at $55k/annum.
Would anyone be able to advise how much is the childcare after all the tax relief? I had tried to do some research on my own (correct me if i am wrong)-
there are 2 parts to it
1. 50% off the childcare charges and it is not mean tested.
2. if your family income does not exceed, i think 80k/annum, you get some money back.
childcare typically charges at about aud$60-$90/day?
just a rough cost of how much to send my 2 children to childcare, so that i can decide if i would want to be a stay at home mum. Thanks for any info in advance.
thanks for responding; we do not know how much would be be offered in australia- as we had found out that "local" experience means the world to them. this is despite that hubby and I have about ten years of post-grad experience in our professions back in singapore. both have us have aus degrees. We think that this is a way of "protectionism" to the local workforce, which is good for ppl who are there already. but pose some barrier to newbies like us
That is why i based on the average annual income that I found out, at $55k/annum.
Would anyone be able to advise how much is the childcare after all the tax relief? I had tried to do some research on my own (correct me if i am wrong)-
there are 2 parts to it
1. 50% off the childcare charges and it is not mean tested.
2. if your family income does not exceed, i think 80k/annum, you get some money back.
childcare typically charges at about aud$60-$90/day?
just a rough cost of how much to send my 2 children to childcare, so that i can decide if i would want to be a stay at home mum. Thanks for any info in advance.
WoofWoof
Degree holders, masters holders are everywhere.
There is seriously no big deal about being a graduate, post graduate too! My hb and are each hold a degree. And I hold an Australia degree too. But so what?
For childcare , using my own experience,
Day care is $70.
After child care benefit (income tested), we pay $55 (i think! i cant rem).
Then at the end of the year, you get 50% refund from out of pocket expenses (ie . 50% of the $55).
I think that is called Child care tax rebate.
Degree holders, masters holders are everywhere.
There is seriously no big deal about being a graduate, post graduate too! My hb and are each hold a degree. And I hold an Australia degree too. But so what?
For childcare , using my own experience,
Day care is $70.
After child care benefit (income tested), we pay $55 (i think! i cant rem).
Then at the end of the year, you get 50% refund from out of pocket expenses (ie . 50% of the $55).
I think that is called Child care tax rebate.
By the way, WoofWoof, many of us (almost everyone i know) who migrated here holds a at least a degree.
We may have to 'downgrade' our job position and lower our expectation. The truth is we will not be able to get back to the same position as we did when we were in Singapore.
We may have to 'downgrade' our job position and lower our expectation. The truth is we will not be able to get back to the same position as we did when we were in Singapore.
<font color="aa00aa">our main reason to migrate now is for the lifestyle..more relax and not as stress as here..
just thinking about competing for a place in a good pri school here is giving me the pressure..must be PV some more to clock in the hours to increase the chance of being accepted.
financial wise should be of no issue since we got quite a tidy sum stashed away and we plan to sell off our house and car...that should give us the added cash needed rite?
but now with this major setback happening unexpectedly to us, we need to assist the police in investigations and settle the legal proceedings...sighhhh</font>
just thinking about competing for a place in a good pri school here is giving me the pressure..must be PV some more to clock in the hours to increase the chance of being accepted.
financial wise should be of no issue since we got quite a tidy sum stashed away and we plan to sell off our house and car...that should give us the added cash needed rite?
but now with this major setback happening unexpectedly to us, we need to assist the police in investigations and settle the legal proceedings...sighhhh</font>
Pardon me for saying this...
Got degrees, so what? Tradies earn more than degree holders.
Basically I feel that if one wants to enjoy the same status, pay, luxurious lifestyle enjoyed in Sg, then don't come over.. as s/he will be in for a big disappointment.
Having said that, the other migrants will be grateful that there are fewer migrants fighting for jobs with them.
Got degrees, so what? Tradies earn more than degree holders.
Basically I feel that if one wants to enjoy the same status, pay, luxurious lifestyle enjoyed in Sg, then don't come over.. as s/he will be in for a big disappointment.
Having said that, the other migrants will be grateful that there are fewer migrants fighting for jobs with them.
I agree with mngo and hidora abt degrees.
if you look at the skills in demand list for aust, its all the jobs that s'poreans in s'pore dont want to do like baker, cook, plumber, electrician etc.
honestly, even in s'pore, i feel that having a degree is only useful if you're a dr, lawyer and want to work in civil service.
i have a degree, but my hb doesn't but he earns more than me and his sklill and line of work is more sought after.
if you look at the skills in demand list for aust, its all the jobs that s'poreans in s'pore dont want to do like baker, cook, plumber, electrician etc.
honestly, even in s'pore, i feel that having a degree is only useful if you're a dr, lawyer and want to work in civil service.
i have a degree, but my hb doesn't but he earns more than me and his sklill and line of work is more sought after.
Besides, here alot of migrants have masters and work experience. Alot of pple have to take entry level job first. Unless you have lots of connections here, very lucky, your skill is really in demand, or you work in some big mnc like oracle or microsoft before. You will get a job easier. If not you may take some time. In Melb, for every job opening, there is 5 people going for that job. In perth, it is 3 people for every job opening. Perhaps in 2006 to 2008, it is much easier to get a job. Now, the things are not as peachy.
And for your first job, if you are lucky, you get a perm position. You have to be prepared to take contract positions.
And for your first job, if you are lucky, you get a perm position. You have to be prepared to take contract positions.
Re contract position
My friend who grad with good results from Au state uni, with 5-6 yrs of local experience is in a contract job now. Nothing wrong with it. Over here, contract position is not like in Sg where it's of a lower class. In fact some contract positions have better benefits and pay to compensate for not being able to offer the employee a perm job.
My friend who grad with good results from Au state uni, with 5-6 yrs of local experience is in a contract job now. Nothing wrong with it. Over here, contract position is not like in Sg where it's of a lower class. In fact some contract positions have better benefits and pay to compensate for not being able to offer the employee a perm job.
Hi mummies
dun get me wrong, degrees are no big deal at this age. We all know tat.
I am worry tat hubby may not earn a decent pay to upkeep e 4 of us (2 adults 2 children). Tat's why I think I might need to work to supplement e income. But with e high childcare cost, it is feasible?
I am prepare to do any job tat come by. I even considered to be re-train to be cook, midwives, any job tat needs to be filled up. At one time, I was thinking of working at coles as night packers to save on childcare as hubby can take care if e kids at night. I never expect an easy time there.
dun get me wrong, degrees are no big deal at this age. We all know tat.
I am worry tat hubby may not earn a decent pay to upkeep e 4 of us (2 adults 2 children). Tat's why I think I might need to work to supplement e income. But with e high childcare cost, it is feasible?
I am prepare to do any job tat come by. I even considered to be re-train to be cook, midwives, any job tat needs to be filled up. At one time, I was thinking of working at coles as night packers to save on childcare as hubby can take care if e kids at night. I never expect an easy time there.
woofwoof,
I will say just be a SAHM. The lesser your hb earns, the more family assist the govt will provide (if you are not working).
It is more feasible to rely on the govt than to have 2 working parents when you have 2 kids.
For example, we received a 10k/yr tax return plus family assist and rent assistance when we first moved here. That time we had only one child and hb was earning about 55k/yr. We chose to receive the money in a one time a yr payment as compared to every fortnightly.
What you do need is a sum of money to tide you over the first 6 mths (rent, bond, 2nd hand car, child seats and etc. As long you do not move to AU with the mentality things will be rosy like how it was in Sg, things will work out fine.
I will say just be a SAHM. The lesser your hb earns, the more family assist the govt will provide (if you are not working).
It is more feasible to rely on the govt than to have 2 working parents when you have 2 kids.
For example, we received a 10k/yr tax return plus family assist and rent assistance when we first moved here. That time we had only one child and hb was earning about 55k/yr. We chose to receive the money in a one time a yr payment as compared to every fortnightly.
What you do need is a sum of money to tide you over the first 6 mths (rent, bond, 2nd hand car, child seats and etc. As long you do not move to AU with the mentality things will be rosy like how it was in Sg, things will work out fine.
Point 4 of hopeac's earlier posting:
"Can you survive long periods of aloneness, and lack of family support, and mentally strong enough to take whatever comes. Periods of self doubt", and may I add: lonliness. I think this is something one do not quite anticipate until u move over, unless u hv a network of family n friends to begin with. One who rely heavily on family support while in Singapore will need to be strong enough to handle this. The couple relationship will also be put under pressure.
I think one should also be equipped with an understanding of their personal tax, medical n insurance system. It work very differently from Singapore. All these will impact your bring home disposable income n living standard, depending on your family structure, income level... amongst others.
Yes, depending on which state u will settle into, one do hv to queue for a good (private)school. And at some private schools, the annual tuition fee for year 10 n beyond can be in excess of 10k easily.
Allow me to add a personal comment: if u want to leave singapore becos of our fast-paced city life, then dun settle into a city like Sdyney n Melbourne. They are no less stressful. They are nice for holidays
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Good luck to those who are there (here), and for those "work-in-progress", do your homework thoroughly.
"Can you survive long periods of aloneness, and lack of family support, and mentally strong enough to take whatever comes. Periods of self doubt", and may I add: lonliness. I think this is something one do not quite anticipate until u move over, unless u hv a network of family n friends to begin with. One who rely heavily on family support while in Singapore will need to be strong enough to handle this. The couple relationship will also be put under pressure.
I think one should also be equipped with an understanding of their personal tax, medical n insurance system. It work very differently from Singapore. All these will impact your bring home disposable income n living standard, depending on your family structure, income level... amongst others.
Yes, depending on which state u will settle into, one do hv to queue for a good (private)school. And at some private schools, the annual tuition fee for year 10 n beyond can be in excess of 10k easily.
Allow me to add a personal comment: if u want to leave singapore becos of our fast-paced city life, then dun settle into a city like Sdyney n Melbourne. They are no less stressful. They are nice for holidays
. Good luck to those who are there (here), and for those "work-in-progress", do your homework thoroughly.
hidora,
interesting. wonder what makes your hb wanna be farmer. I heard that during the great drought period of 2006-2008, crops in SE Qld were so affected that there were cases where farmers committed suicide becos of their crop failure. The crops are so dependent on weather, no matter how hard you work. One the other hand, living on a farm is probably a lot of fun, and you will probably be building your own house and maintaining your own generator in time to come!
interesting. wonder what makes your hb wanna be farmer. I heard that during the great drought period of 2006-2008, crops in SE Qld were so affected that there were cases where farmers committed suicide becos of their crop failure. The crops are so dependent on weather, no matter how hard you work. One the other hand, living on a farm is probably a lot of fun, and you will probably be building your own house and maintaining your own generator in time to come!
joetsang101
Member
mngo,
In replying your earlier question.
My hubby thought he might stay in SG first, while kid and I go first, hopefully our presence there can still reserve the PR or maybe extend.
So I need to find a job there inorder to get a chance of extension.. wat if I cannot get job immediately? Any benefit in Aus for mummies with kids
In replying your earlier question.
My hubby thought he might stay in SG first, while kid and I go first, hopefully our presence there can still reserve the PR or maybe extend.
So I need to find a job there inorder to get a chance of extension.. wat if I cannot get job immediately? Any benefit in Aus for mummies with kids
