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Hi ladies, can I check after 1 failed transfer, when and how many months before you do your next transfer? Did you take a break in between?
I had 5 months break for a #2 fresh cycle.. initially was 4 months but they were full on the prev month. :) #2 cycle egg retrival were better quality! My previous collection of 17 eggs, i only had 1 egg to freeze. But this cycle i had 24 eggs & 9 great expanded blastocysts to freeze. :D i started on pregnancy milk, Blackmore's Conceive Well supplements & reduce my cold drink intakes.. are u going for a fet or fresh?
 


I had 5 months break for a #2 fresh cycle.. initially was 4 months but they were full on the prev month. :) #2 cycle egg retrival were better quality! My previous collection of 17 eggs, i only had 1 egg to freeze. But this cycle i had 24 eggs & 9 great expanded blastocysts to freeze. :D i started on pregnancy milk, Blackmore's Conceive Well supplements & reduce my cold drink intakes.. are u going for a fet or fresh?
Woah 9 blastocysts is very good! Can I know what is different in #2 cycle?
 
Woah 9 blastocysts is very good! Can I know what is different in #2 cycle?
During my 1st fresh cycle, i didnt prep my body well for the cycle. I was given Gonal F 175 unit & Ganirelix. In a form of food diet wise, didn't pantang at all.. :p ER on CD14 gotten 17 eggs but only 2 early Blastocyst. 1 early Blastocyst transferred. Had OHSS 2nd half of HL. Period came 2 days early before blood test. I can't pee or poop well and didnt drink water much despite being advice. Badly bloated with my FBC white blood cell

So for 2nd fresh cycle, a month or 2 before the cycle, i was on Blackmore's Conceive Well Tablets for 2 months and taking Pregnancy Formula Nature One Dairy once daily. This cycle they gave me Gonal F 150 unit, Menopur 75 unit & Ganirelix (God my belly is a battlefield! :p) and even if the eggs grow slowly but consistent. I ate unsalted roasted almonds about 3 - 5 nuts daily and strictly no cold drinks eg sodas, lemon tea, cola etcs. Drink warm water & red dates. As for food, less fried food. I was on Metformin 500mg 2 times daily for my PCOS and newly diagnosed DM type 2. AMH is 9.2. insane.. lol!

Gotten 24 eggs on ER on CD17, half was IVF, half was ICSI. Blastocysts grade B and 2 Blastocyst from it were the good quality fully expanded, one transfer in me & the other freezed. This cycle, even after 24 eggs taken out, i wasn't bloated badly at all.. after ER, i could walk about. Used hot rubber bag to apply on my lower abdomen and drink ALOT of water. Took Pregnancy Milk, Tofu, Egg whites, Chickens, Beancurd, Hot Soya bean drinks during my 5 days before egg transfer & continue doing it till today. I tried to avoid caffeines as much as I could. I felt great this cycle! More movements and laughs.. Folic Acid is a staple and currently on Crinone gel 2 times a day.

So yeah, usually 1st cycle is like a trial for us and the Dr, to know how much is much for us to respond to the fertility drugs.. 2nd cycles are usually better. Hope this helps!
 
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During my 1st fresh cycle, i didnt prep my body well for the cycle. I was given Gonal F 175 unit & Ganirelix. In a form of food diet wise, didn't pantang at all.. :p ER on CD14 gotten 17 eggs but only 2 early Blastocyst. 1 early Blastocyst transferred. Had OHSS 2nd half of HL. Period came 2 days early before blood test. I can't pee or poop well and didnt drink water much despite being advice. Badly bloated with my FBC white blood cell

So for 2nd fresh cycle, a month or 2 before the cycle, i was on Blackmore's Conceive Well Tablets for 2 months and taking Pregnancy Formula Nature One Dairy once daily. This cycle they gave me Gonal F 150 unit, Menopur 75 unit & Ganirelix (God my belly is a battlefield! :p) and even if the eggs grow slowly but consistent. I ate unsalted roasted almonds about 3 - 5 nuts daily and strictly no cold drinks eg sodas, lemon tea, cola etcs. Drink warm water & red dates. As for food, less fried food. I was on Metformin 500mg 2 times daily for my PCOS and newly diagnosed DM type 2. AMH is 9.2. insane.. lol!

Gotten 24 eggs on ER on CD17, half was IVF, half was ICSI. Blastocysts grade B and 2 Blastocyst from it were the good quality fully expanded, one transfer in me & the other freezed. This cycle, even after 24 eggs taken out, i wasn't bloated badly at all.. after ER, i could walk about. Used hot rubber bag to apply on my lower abdomen and drink ALOT of water. Took Pregnancy Milk, Tofu, Egg whites, Chickens, Beancurd, Hot Soya bean drinks during my 5 days before egg transfer & continue doing it till today. I tried to avoid caffeines as much as I could. I felt great this cycle! More movements and laughs.. Folic Acid is a staple and currently on Crinone gel 2 times a day.

So yeah, usually 1st cycle is like a trial for us and the Dr, to know how much is much for us to respond to the fertility drugs.. 2nd cycles are usually better. Hope this helps!
That's great! Thanks for the info.
I hope my current #2 fresh is better than my #1 fresh. My #1 was given puregon 300 units and ganirelix. Retrieved 7 but none transferred. Bloating was mild.
#2 was given gonalF 300 units, pergoveris 150 unit and ganirelix. Nurse said the dosage is quite high. I'm afraid of OHSS. Food wise I dont eat and drink anything cold. Eating avocados, eggs, salmon, walnuts, almonds…Taking multivit, folic acid and ubiquinol. And go for 3km walk 2 times a week. Yeah…I agreed the first is a trial. Hopefully the change in the stim will improve my eggs.
 
That's great! Thanks for the info.
I hope my current #2 fresh is better than my #1 fresh. My #1 was given puregon 300 units and ganirelix. Retrieved 7 but none transferred. Bloating was mild.
#2 was given gonalF 300 units, pergoveris 150 unit and ganirelix. Nurse said the dosage is quite high. I'm afraid of OHSS. Food wise I dont eat and drink anything cold. Eating avocados, eggs, salmon, walnuts, almonds…Taking multivit, folic acid and ubiquinol. And go for 3km walk 2 times a week. Yeah…I agreed the first is a trial. Hopefully the change in the stim will improve my eggs.
That's pretty high dear.. hope it helps with both the growth and quality. As for OHSS, even during your stim routine, drink lots of water. Warm water. Don't keep your pee too long coz it might cause u unable to pee as the ovaries are swelling even before ER. I tend to keep my pee longer in #1 cycle, that was very bad.. now, everytime i felt like peeing, i just go. Even if it was 1hr ago, just let it out. Same goes to pooping.. i tried not to take any medications or supplements post ET. Just Folic Acid & Pregnancy Milk.. just to provide additional nutrition to that lil bean if everything goes well.. also, a great tip i got, 2 nights before your ET, warm ur womb with those rubber hot bag before sleeping. Helps with circulations & keeping it warm. Wear socks when in cold rooms.. :)
 
Hi not sure if anyone can help me. I am supposed to start injectables this cycle. However my appointment with dr is only on CD 6. Just went to TCM and the TCM dr mention that injectables should start CD 3... now i am very confused about this cycle..
Hi dear, not sure if this is too late but usually in KKH, they will call u back on CD2 or CD3 for a scan to see if its truly a new cycle started (menses) then some will start straight away with the growth hormone or in my case, 3 days of Ganirelix from CD2-CD5 before adding in the other 2 drugs. Maybe ur Dr wanted to do a baseline records, blood test for both partners and start the next cycle? Hope everything goes smoothly for you hunn..
 
That's pretty high dear.. hope it helps with both the growth and quality. As for OHSS, even during your stim routine, drink lots of water. Warm water. Don't keep your pee too long coz it might cause u unable to pee as the ovaries are swelling even before ER. I tend to keep my pee longer in #1 cycle, that was very bad.. now, everytime i felt like peeing, i just go. Even if it was 1hr ago, just let it out. Same goes to pooping.. i tried not to take any medications or supplements post ET. Just Folic Acid & Pregnancy Milk.. just to provide additional nutrition to that lil bean if everything goes well.. also, a great tip i got, 2 nights before your ET, warm ur womb with those rubber hot bag before sleeping. Helps with circulations & keeping it warm. Wear socks when in cold rooms.. :)
Oh the hot pack to womb is a good idea. U got BFP in the end?
 
Just curious.. OHSS will happen after retrievals too?
Yup.. because the process of retrieving the eggs requires multiple poking to the ovaries for the Dr to draw out the eggs. Usually occurs to those with high egg numbers retrieved. But some with less than 10 eggs too get it. Either right after the procedure or halfway the two weeks wait.. Dr will do a blood test FBC & a quick belly scan to see before the transfer were made.
 
Yup.. because the process of retrieving the eggs requires multiple poking to the ovaries for the Dr to draw out the eggs. Usually occurs to those with high egg numbers retrieved. But some with less than 10 eggs too get it. Either right after the procedure or halfway the two weeks wait.. Dr will do a blood test FBC & a quick belly scan to see before the transfer were made.
I had mild OHSS when I did my ER, and had to do a frozen cycle even though my FBC was okay.. Does it mean even after ER the follicles might still grow when we didn't do any fresh transfer?
 
hi all, after ER do you all discharge yellow stuff when flatulence?

You may want to call your clinic just to be safe. From what I understand, must call if exhibit symptoms like fever, yellow discharge, difficulty in peeing etc. within the first few days after ER. In case of bacterial infection.
 
I had mild OHSS when I did my ER, and had to do a frozen cycle even though my FBC was okay.. Does it mean even after ER the follicles might still grow when we didn't do any fresh transfer?
They will turn into ur normal cycle again when ur body detects no pregnancy going on.. so the cycle starts again as Day 1 menses.. And yes, it will grow as per normal..
 
Hey ladies! Any idea if we can test on 6dp5dt fresh cycle and get something? I'm itching to POAS.. lol!!!
 
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Hi anyone with kkh? Usually after how many days after ER they will inform you on the fertilisation rate?
Me! First ER with kkh. I got the call on my 5th day, was getting anxious but my doctor assured us as long as no calls till 5th day means likely got blasts so don't need to worry.

But if u are doing fresh I think next 2 days?
 
Me! First ER with kkh. I got the call on my 5th day, was getting anxious but my doctor assured us as long as no calls till 5th day means likely got blasts so don't need to worry.

But if u are doing fresh I think next 2 days?

thanks! I think I’m doing fresh or rather they already prepare me to do fresh Liao. Inserting Crinone starting today onwards. I did my ER on sat.
they did inform me they will call me tml pm. Finger cross I got viable embryo!!
 
thanks! I think I’m doing fresh or rather they already prepare me to do fresh Liao. Inserting Crinone starting today onwards. I did my ER on sat.
they did inform me they will call me tml pm. Finger cross I got viable embryo!!
How many eggs did u retrieve?

All the best!
 
Hi anyone with kkh? Usually after how many days after ER they will inform you on the fertilisation rate?
Hi dear,
ER day is considered as Day 0. So usually Day 3 they will call to informed if its a Day 4 or Day 5 transfer.. here is my timeline

2 Oct - ER at 2pm

5 Oct - KKHIVF call to schedule when to come. Mine Day5 Blasto

7 Oct - ET Day (blood test at IVF Basement 1 at 7.30am then ET at 10am)

9 Oct - Embryologist called to inform how many Blastocyst to be frozen at 4.45pm. (Take ur chance to ask anything regarding your embryos)

21 Oct - HCG Beta.


Hope this helps!
 
thanks! I think I’m doing fresh or rather they already prepare me to do fresh Liao. Inserting Crinone starting today onwards. I did my ER on sat.
they did inform me they will call me tml pm. Finger cross I got viable embryo!!
During these days before ET, warm your womb with hot rubber bag on your abdomen. Help with circulations and warm up the womb.. embryos love warm wombs! But stop doing it once ET. Use thick socks to keep u warm ya! All the best!
 
During these days before ET, warm your womb with hot rubber bag on your abdomen. Help with circulations and warm up the womb.. embryos love warm wombs! But stop doing it once ET. Use thick socks to keep u warm ya! All the best!

thanks what special food did you eat as well? I’ve got the menses heat paddoes that work? I have been wearing socks more of the time at home
 
thanks what special food did you eat as well? I’ve got the menses heat paddoes that work? I have been wearing socks more of the time at home
Yup works too!!

So for 2nd fresh cycle, a month or 2 before the cycle, i was on Blackmore's Conceive Well Tablets for 2 months and taking Pregnancy Formula Nature One Dairy once daily. This cycle they gave me Gonal F 150 unit, Menopur 75 unit & Ganirelix (God my belly is a battlefield! :p) and even if the eggs grow slowly but consistent. I ate unsalted roasted almonds about 3 - 5 nuts daily and strictly no cold drinks eg sodas, lemon tea, cola etcs. Drink warm water & red dates. As for food, less fried food. I was on Metformin 500mg 2 times daily for my PCOS and newly diagnosed DM type 2. AMH is 9.2. insane.. lol!

Gotten 24 eggs on ER on CD17, half was IVF, half was ICSI. 9 Blastocysts grade B and 2 Blastocyst from it were the good quality fully expanded, one transfer in me & the other freezed. This cycle, even after 24 eggs taken out, i wasn't bloated badly at all.. after ER, i could walk about. Used hot rubber bag to apply on my lower abdomen and drink ALOT of water. Took Pregnancy Milk, Tofu, Egg whites, Chickens, Beancurd, Hot Soya bean drinks during my 5 days before egg transfer & continue doing it till today. I tried to avoid caffeines as much as I could. I felt great this cycle! More movements and laughs.. Folic Acid is a staple and currently on Crinone gel 2 times a day.

As for OHSS, even during your stim routine, drink lots of water. Warm water. Don't keep your pee too long coz it might cause u unable to pee as the ovaries are swelling even before ER. I tend to keep my pee longer in #1 cycle, that was very bad.. now, everytime i felt like peeing, i just go. Even if it was 1hr ago, just let it out. Same goes to pooping.. i tried not to take any medications or supplements post ET. Just Folic Acid & Pregnancy Milk.. just to provide additional nutrition to that lil bean if everything goes well.. also, a great tip i got, 2 nights before your ET, warm ur womb with those rubber hot bag before sleeping. Helps with circulations & keeping it warm. Wear socks when in cold rooms.. :)
 
Yup works too!!

So for 2nd fresh cycle, a month or 2 before the cycle, i was on Blackmore's Conceive Well Tablets for 2 months and taking Pregnancy Formula Nature One Dairy once daily. This cycle they gave me Gonal F 150 unit, Menopur 75 unit & Ganirelix (God my belly is a battlefield! :p) and even if the eggs grow slowly but consistent. I ate unsalted roasted almonds about 3 - 5 nuts daily and strictly no cold drinks eg sodas, lemon tea, cola etcs. Drink warm water & red dates. As for food, less fried food. I was on Metformin 500mg 2 times daily for my PCOS and newly diagnosed DM type 2. AMH is 9.2. insane.. lol!

Gotten 24 eggs on ER on CD17, half was IVF, half was ICSI. 9 Blastocysts grade B and 2 Blastocyst from it were the good quality fully expanded, one transfer in me & the other freezed. This cycle, even after 24 eggs taken out, i wasn't bloated badly at all.. after ER, i could walk about. Used hot rubber bag to apply on my lower abdomen and drink ALOT of water. Took Pregnancy Milk, Tofu, Egg whites, Chickens, Beancurd, Hot Soya bean drinks during my 5 days before egg transfer & continue doing it till today. I tried to avoid caffeines as much as I could. I felt great this cycle! More movements and laughs.. Folic Acid is a staple and currently on Crinone gel 2 times a day.

As for OHSS, even during your stim routine, drink lots of water. Warm water. Don't keep your pee too long coz it might cause u unable to pee as the ovaries are swelling even before ER. I tend to keep my pee longer in #1 cycle, that was very bad.. now, everytime i felt like peeing, i just go. Even if it was 1hr ago, just let it out. Same goes to pooping.. i tried not to take any medications or supplements post ET. Just Folic Acid & Pregnancy Milk.. just to provide additional nutrition to that lil bean if everything goes well.. also, a great tip i got, 2 nights before your ET, warm ur womb with those rubber hot bag before sleeping. Helps with circulations & keeping it warm. Wear socks when in cold rooms.. :)

thanks! That’s a Long list! I have been eating Blackmore conceive well for 1 months plus .. not daily though before this cycle..
 
Hi dear,
ER day is considered as Day 0. So usually Day 3 they will call to informed if its a Day 4 or Day 5 transfer.. here is my timeline

2 Oct - ER at 2pm

5 Oct - KKHIVF call to schedule when to come. Mine Day5 Blasto

7 Oct - ET Day (blood test at IVF Basement 1 at 7.30am then ET at 10am)

9 Oct - Embryologist called to inform how many Blastocyst to be frozen at 4.45pm. (Take ur chance to ask anything regarding your embryos)

21 Oct - HCG Beta.


Hope this helps!

Hi is it on 5th oct they called u and will tell u how many got fertilised? And how many are good?
 
Hi is it on 5th oct they called u and will tell u how many got fertilised? And how many are good?
They didnt reveal on the phone. When u come to the IVF@Level 3, the Dr will update you on the number.

The Dr will tell how many fertilized, hows the quality & grade and how many has gone to fully expanded or early Blastocyst. :D for the rest of the eggs, the embryologist will come in and tell u on the status as u lie on the bed after the ET was done.
 
They didnt reveal on the phone. When u come to the IVF@Level 3, the Dr will update you on the number.

The Dr will tell how many fertilized, hows the quality & grade and how many has gone to fully expanded or early Blastocyst. :D for the rest of the eggs, the embryologist will come in and tell u on the status as u lie on the bed after the ET was done.

So on 2nd oct they already can predict its day 5 blastocyst? Sorry asking so many qns. Just wondering why kkh never do daily update...
 
So on 2nd oct they already can predict its day 5 blastocyst? Sorry asking so many qns. Just wondering why kkh never do daily update...
Usually the Nurse will update after checking with the embryologist and Dr on the feedback. If they see the growth is as per protocol, then they are able to predict. Daily update is not necessary to my point. Plus i think the embryologist are busy working on the embryos growth in incubator. Knowing that your egg made it to Day 5 is a great indication that it has finished its initial important part to grow into a fetus.. next step all lies to the embryos ability to implant into our wombs.
 
Hi, went for my 1st ivf cycle last month and it failed. Menses came 2 days before blood test. Was really having hopes. Now I have to rest my body for a month before carrying on ET in November. Any tips to prepare the body? And any idea if we will get mc or hl after second round of embryo transfer?
 
Are chemical pregnancies common in IVF? I just experienced one, my first, and have so many questions about why..
Hi. My IVF doc said 20% of the IVF or natural pregnancy will be chemical. I had one myself in September from my first frozen transfer also. It’s normal to feel upset but most importantly we must continue to fight on... building up on my body for the next transfer!!
 
Are chemical pregnancies common in IVF? I just experienced one, my first, and have so many questions about why..
Not sure if its common in IVF but for normal cycle as well, they are common. Although the definite reason for such causes are still unknown, i read that it could be due to the embryos quality or ability to continue growing after an implantation or the chromosomes disruption.. i had one in Nov 2019 dear at 6 weeks.. keep on praying & baby dust!
 
Not sure if its common in IVF but for normal cycle as well, they are common. Although the definite reason for such causes are still unknown, i read that it could be due to the embryos quality or ability to continue growing after an implantation or the chromosomes disruption.. i had one in Nov 2019 dear at 6 weeks.. keep on praying & baby dust!
Hi, may I know how Long was the break you took between the 2 IVF cycles ? I’m still contemplating when I should go for the next transfer.
 
FET. Although my doc told me I can go for FET the next cycle.
If you are feeling alright, u may proceed dear. I would suggest u try taking in some supplements first like Blackmore's Conceive Well Tablets & Pregnancy Milk to prep your body to receive the lil ones.. especially help in the womb lining.. hope it helps!

Also, your FET, are u using any assisted drugs? Or its just a transfer only?
 
If you are feeling alright, u may proceed dear. I would suggest u try taking in some supplements first like Blackmore's Conceive Well Tablets & Pregnancy Milk to prep your body to receive the lil ones.. especially help in the womb lining.. hope it helps!

Also, your FET, are u using any assisted drugs? Or its just a transfer only?
Thanks dear... I’m taking vit D, prenatal vitamins and folic acid. It was a medicated FET. For my previous transfer, my lining was ok... I was on progynova and inserts for about 2 weeks prior transfer... after transfer doc added duphaston.
 
Thanks dear... I’m taking vit D, prenatal vitamins and folic acid. It was a medicated FET. For my previous transfer, my lining was ok... I was on progynova and inserts for about 2 weeks prior transfer... after transfer doc added duphaston.
In addition, I have been using a “warmer” to wrap around my tummy to warm up my womb. Btw, how does pregnancy milk help ? I thought it’s taken when we r pregnant ? Does it taste awful ? I dun really take milk.
 
Are chemical pregnancies common in IVF? I just experienced one, my first, and have so many questions about why..
I read online that is common but because for IVF, we tested early. So if chemical pregnancy occurs, we will be able to know. I had chemical pregnancies twice...once in dec 19 and once in sep 20..trying tcm now..tcm said should be due to my lining not strong enough...so i am taking tcm medication first and doing FET 3 months later Be positive!
 
In addition, I have been using a “warmer” to wrap around my tummy to warm up my womb. Btw, how does pregnancy milk help ? I thought it’s taken when we r pregnant ? Does it taste awful ? I dun really take milk.
Thanks dear... I’m taking vit D, prenatal vitamins and folic acid. It was a medicated FET. For my previous transfer, my lining was ok... I was on progynova and inserts for about 2 weeks prior transfer... after transfer doc added duphaston.
I transferred 2 x5AA blastocyst. My doc suggest to transfer another 2 the next round. So I’m thinking when should I do so.
 
In addition, I have been using a “warmer” to wrap around my tummy to warm up my womb. Btw, how does pregnancy milk help ? I thought it’s taken when we r pregnant ? Does it taste awful ? I dun really take milk.
Ahh yes, warming the womb 2 days before the ET is great! As for the milk, I took it as an additional nutrients for my body.. preping my body for the lil one. It has folic acids as well . Providing nutrients to the womb lining for the embryo to implant.. it taste like those primary school milk or those using in cakes.. lol! This particular brand i love. Also, its kind of a motivation to me.. lol! I started taking it during my stim period once daily. Now after the ET 2 times daily.. keeps me full too.. hehe
 

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Ahh... Awesome!! 2 blasto should increase the chance! :) Do it when u feel you are ready, mentally and physically.. when i did my 1st IVF, i wasn't prepared at all in terms of receiving the injectables and prepping my body. Bad OHSS and 1 blasto frozen out of 17 eggs. So the 2nd cycle, i am fully aware what i should do & avoid to increased my chance. 24 eggs, no OHSS and 8 blasto frozen. I had 5 months rest and just relax.. once u feel comfortable to do it, go on with it dear!! :) Our prayers & cheers!
 



Ahh... Awesome!! 2 blasto should increase the chance! :) Do it when u feel you are ready, mentally and physically.. when i did my 1st IVF, i wasn't prepared at all in terms of receiving the injectables and prepping my body. Bad OHSS and 1 blasto frozen out of 17 eggs. So the 2nd cycle, i am fully aware what i should do & avoid to increased my chance. 24 eggs, no OHSS and 8 blasto frozen. I had 5 months rest and just relax.. once u feel comfortable to do it, go on with it dear!! :) Our prayers & cheers!
thank u.. baby dust to u!!
 

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