IVF/ICSI Support Group

Hello Sisters, after 3 iui failed we started ivf journey. my first ivf done @ sincere ivf centre last nov ended up with bfn. 7 eggs retrieved(antagonist protocol), 4 matured but only 1 grade 1 make it for day3 et.during et the egg was16 cells;dr and embryologist telling positively. I saw the picture also.So I had so much hope but cycle failed with no reasons told. It's very hurtful and struggling to move on to next cycle. So will be helpful and encouraging if i hear from sisters here on how can I prepare myself for 2 nd cycle. If anyone here under the same clinic ?please share your experience. Thanks in advance.

Im been following this thread frm last sep. Sisters here are very supportive and encouraging. Hats off to them.

Tks.
 


Dear ladies, may I know if menses will last longer than normal after failed fresh cycle? Today is 9th day of my period and im still bleeding like day 4/5. When shd it be a concern?
 
dontlosehope said:
Dear ladies, may I know if menses will last longer than normal after failed fresh cycle? Today is 9th day of my period and im still bleeding like day 4/5. When shd it be a concern?
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Hi dontlosehope, it shouldnt be a concern. This is quite normal for the first menses to go haywire and last longer than usual. For mine it ended after 12 days after taking tcm powder to stop the bleeding. Dont worry, it will resume to normal on the subsequent cycles.
 
JasG12 said:
I saw heartbeat on my 1st n 2nd visit. So I know this pregnancy is impossible now. Can I ask how many mg of q10 did u all take?
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& u didn't have any bleeding prior to your week 9 scan?

Coq10 i took 10mg one. But when i started on blackmores conceive well, i didn't take the individual coq10 anymore.
 
connie_hopeful said:
Hugs..i am on antibiotics type a for 1 week. This type a antibiotic is working then i was put on another antibiotic type b for another week. I am not on medicine now but when i back to work after mc, My astma came back slighlty again today.

Fyi, Ivf doc actuali says ok to proceed when i visit in day 14 in midst of sickness. but i called recently at day 26 when i am slighly better.
as i have missed some items at day 21 as i am too sick to call n go clinic on day 21. So doc not want me to start this cycle. Ask me dun rush as i didnt do e day 21 thgy. although i have taken leave specially to do this 3rd round. Well..dunno wat to say..maybi 天意asking me to rest n take more tcm n supplment for a few more cycles to tiao e body. I dunno

Good luck to you!
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Good to rest and nurse your health back..so when will u start your cycle now?
 
sunnyrc said:
Hello Sisters, after 3 iui failed we started ivf journey. my first ivf done @ sincere ivf centre last nov ended up with bfn. 7 eggs retrieved(antagonist protocol), 4 matured but only 1 grade 1 make it for day3 et.during et the egg was16 cells;dr and embryologist telling positively. I saw the picture also.So I had so much hope but cycle failed with no reasons told. It's very hurtful and struggling to move on to next cycle. So will be helpful and encouraging if i hear from sisters here on how can I prepare myself for 2 nd cycle. If anyone here under the same clinic ?please share your experience. Thanks in advance.

Im been following this thread frm last sep. Sisters here are very supportive and encouraging. Hats off to them.

Tks.
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What protocol did prof give you? Gonal f? maybi go for a review and see wat he recommends to improve e next cycle.
 
Sparkling_ee said:
Dr Zou is female. I heard she will be going back to Shanghai from 3/2 to 17/2 for CNY, so do plan your visit to her clinic. There will be relief acupuncturist but I am not sure if they will be as goods her. You need to call to book your slot first, then on your appointment date, you need to take queue no for acupuncture, waiting time around 10-20 mins so far for us. Hope the info helps :)
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I see. When I called to make appt, a china guy answered the phone and sounded quite rude, was abit thrown off..
 
JasG12 said:
Im been following this tread since last aug which is also my 1st ivf. Bfn with only 3 eggs and only 1 grade 3 make it for et. Taking dhea n q10 since then. Did my 2nd round ivf in nov with 5 eggs. 1 grade 3 n 1 grade 4 make it for et but only 1 stick. Today im suppose to be 9 weeks but there is no heart beat. Doc suggest that i shd mc natually. Feeling so down now.

Can someone advise me what shd i do now and when is the best time to try 3rd round. Also i read some sister buying q10 online. Where can i find it? Tks.
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Did you come any bleeding or brown discharges?
 
Hi karen,i got very little light brown dis charge on sun n mon. Mon evening i went dwn o&g. Doc on duty cant detect hb n ask me to go dwn ytd to scan again. Same ans.
How abt u dear? We are on the same fb group. I saw ur post. Hope everything goes smoothly for u.
 
JasG12 said:
Hi karen,i got very little light brown dis charge on sun n mon. Mon evening i went dwn o&g. Doc on duty cant detect hb n ask me to go dwn ytd to scan again. Same ans.
How abt u dear? We are on the same fb group. I saw ur post. Hope everything goes smoothly for u.
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Can u pm me on fb?
 
margotansc said:
& u didn't have any bleeding prior to your week 9 scan?

Coq10 i took 10mg one. But when i started on blackmores conceive well, i didn't take the individual coq10 anymore.
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I got very light brown spotting only. No bleeding till now.
I read online that people are taking 400-600mg of q10. So im thinking how much of mg shd i take n when is the best time to start taking?
 
JasG12 said:
I got very light brown spotting only. No bleeding till now.
I read online that people are taking 400-600mg of q10. So im thinking how much of mg shd i take n when is the best time to start taking?
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Hi Jas, very sorry for your loss. Hope that you will recover well physically, mentally & emotionally and try again when you feel ready.
I read that 300mg of current formula sold in market is considered high and adequate for antioxidant effect for health. For complementing fertility treatments, recommended dosage is 100-300mg. I'm taking the same brand as mentioned in earlier post by Celestialbaby. I have been taking 300mg dosage daily since beginning of this year in consideration of my advanced age. You can also buy lower dosage pills and take a few times a day instead of taking the daily dosage at once. I took before and throughout my cycles and continue even during preggy as doc confirmed ok. If you have concerns, do check with your doc. Take care k. All the best!
 
Dreamscometrue said:
I see. When I called to make appt, a china guy answered the phone and sounded quite rude, was abit thrown off..
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Ya I recalled when I visited dr zuo, the man outside is quite nice. But he is not the talkative type. Usually there are a lot of people n he also needs to prepare the Chinese medicine. Be mentally prepared that the q might be long.

I believe in Tcm and dr zuo is quite good but eventually I didn't go follow up with Tcm during my ivf cycles (even the cycle I bfp) as I felt it was too stressful for me. I guess really up to Individuals.
 
Just started taking Nor E yesterday for 7 days. Stimulation will start 16th Jan. OR end Jan. ET beginning of Feb. BT after CNY.

As this is my 1st fresh cycle, I'm rather stress. Currently, destress by exercising. Can I continue to exercise during stimulation & stop after ET?

Quite worry about injecting myself. Not sure if I will be able to do it. Just wonder did any one get their GP to inject for them?
 
MiyukiBB said:
Just started taking Nor E yesterday for 7 days. Stimulation will start 16th Jan. OR end Jan. ET beginning of Feb. BT after CNY.

As this is my 1st fresh cycle, I'm rather stress. Currently, destress by exercising. Can I continue to exercise during stimulation & stop after ET?

Quite worry about injecting myself. Not sure if I will be able to do it. Just wonder did any one get their GP to inject for them?
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Hi miyukibb, dun stress! When i did my first shot for iui, i was very scare too! But after the first shot, u will get use to it and it's not painful. Just squeeze ur fats hard enough. Haha! The needle is very fine so dun worry! I am starting my stim now, nurse advice "no exercise except brisk walk because they afraid too many eggs in your body and u will feel bloat, no unprotected sex too"
 
MiyukiBB said:
Just started taking Nor E yesterday for 7 days. Stimulation will start 16th Jan. OR end Jan. ET beginning of Feb. BT after CNY.

As this is my 1st fresh cycle, I'm rather stress. Currently, destress by exercising. Can I continue to exercise during stimulation & stop after ET?

Quite worry about injecting myself. Not sure if I will be able to do it. Just wonder did any one get their GP to inject for them?
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Hi @MiyukiBB

Stress not! I am very afraid of needles so I got my husband to jab me.

I did continue exercising during stimms, nothing too streneuous and I stopped exercising from OR day onwards.

You can do it. Jia You!
 
pammm said:
Hi @MiyukiBB

Stress not! I am very afraid of needles so I got my husband to jab me.

I did continue exercising during stimms, nothing too streneuous and I stopped exercising from OR day onwards.

You can do it. Jia You!
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Hi Pammm,

Thanks for the advice. Hope that all of us can get bfp soon. Good Luck.
 
Hi sisters,

I starting my stim jabs tonight... Hubby will be helping me inject as got prior medical experience during NS days so i think i am in good hands... I hope :D
 
DawnBB said:
Hi Jas, very sorry for your loss. Hope that you will recover well physically, mentally & emotionally and try again when you feel ready.
I read that 300mg of current formula sold in market is considered high and adequate for antioxidant effect for health. For complementing fertility treatments, recommended dosage is 100-300mg. I'm taking the same brand as mentioned in earlier post by Celestialbaby. I have been taking 300mg dosage daily since beginning of this year in consideration of my advanced age. You can also buy lower dosage pills and take a few times a day instead of taking the daily dosage at once. I took before and throughout my cycles and continue even during preggy as doc confirmed ok. If you have concerns, do check with your doc. Take care k. All the best!
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I just need some time to adjust back n everything will be better.Tks Dawnbb for ur great info. I was looking online but couldnt find my ans. U defi a great helper and congrats. Baby dust to all.
 
MiyukiBB said:
Just started taking Nor E yesterday for 7 days. Stimulation will start 16th Jan. OR end Jan. ET beginning of Feb. BT after CNY.

As this is my 1st fresh cycle, I'm rather stress. Currently, destress by exercising. Can I continue to exercise during stimulation & stop after ET?

Quite worry about injecting myself. Not sure if I will be able to do it. Just wonder did any one get their GP to inject for them?
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Hi MiyukiBB. I know a friend who had her daily stim jabs done at GP as she couldn't do it herself and her hubby also too scared. She paid about $20 per visit so one cycle paid GP about $200+ but that's sometime ago so not sure of the charges now.

The nurse will teach and demo how to do the jab. It's not easy and I really salute many of the sisters who inject themselves.Like others mentioned, grit your teeth, focus on wanting bb, inhale deep deep and get through first jab. Subsequent jabs should get easier.

Try to avoid vigorous or strenuous activities during stim and immediately after ER to avoid ovarian torsion. In fact you are likely to feel discomfort and bloated esp if you respond well with many follicles such that barring you from these activities. When you feel better after ET, can do light exercise like brisk walking to enhance blood circulation & relaxation.

Maybe can consider adult colouring books to destress? Try not to stress as not good for you. When you have done all you can, rem that the last best thing you can do for yourself is to stay positive. Jia you & all the best!
 
MiyukiBB said:
Just started taking Nor E yesterday for 7 days. Stimulation will start 16th Jan. OR end Jan. ET beginning of Feb. BT after CNY.

As this is my 1st fresh cycle, I'm rather stress. Currently, destress by exercising. Can I continue to exercise during stimulation & stop after ET?

Quite worry about injecting myself. Not sure if I will be able to do it. Just wonder did any one get their GP to inject for them?
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Hi I just did my first cycle in December. Was initially quite worried about the jabs but they turned out very manageable actually. No bruises at all, pain was very minimal like ant bite. My hubs helped with the injection early in the morning so I was still kinda groggy and didn't feel much. Hahaha... After the jab, I just went back to sleep for a while more before getting up for work... Relax and you'll be fine. Have a smooth journey ahead!!
 
odie24 said:
Hi sisters,

I starting my stim jabs tonight... Hubby will be helping me inject as got prior medical experience during NS days so i think i am in good hands... I hope :D
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Don't worry. Just trust the husband. Mine had no prior experience but it went well. Just have to trust them lor. Actually I think the husband injecting part is sweet lor.. it's like bonding time. Lol.
 
the_spinsterella said:
Don't worry. Just trust the husband. Mine had no prior experience but it went well. Just have to trust them lor. Actually I think the husband injecting part is sweet lor.. it's like bonding time. Lol.
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Haha I prefer to trust myself as I have this nagging thought that my dh will use the opportunity to take revenge on me especially when I start to whine and brat when my hormones go haywire! But he does help me on the mixture part if the drugs needs to be mixed and prepared. :p
 
For BT results, they will call even is BFN?
Do we have to wait go can go home straight after?
If BFP, need to collect meds?
First time. :)
 
Melody2512 said:
Hi miyukibb, dun stress! When i did my first shot for iui, i was very scare too! But after the first shot, u will get use to it and it's not painful. Just squeeze ur fats hard enough. Haha! The needle is very fine so dun worry! I am starting my stim now, nurse advice "no exercise except brisk walk because they afraid too many eggs in your body and u will feel bloat, no unprotected sex too"
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Hi Melody2512,

Hope I'm able to jab myself. My hubby is scare to do for me.
 
Melody2512 said:
Hi miyukibb, dun stress! When i did my first shot for iui, i was very scare too! But after the first shot, u will get use to it and it's not painful. Just squeeze ur fats hard enough. Haha! The needle is very fine so dun worry! I am starting my stim now, nurse advice "no exercise except brisk walk because they afraid too many eggs in your body and u will feel bloat, no unprotected sex too"
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Hi Melody2512,

Hope I'm able to jab myself. My hubby is scare to do for me.
DawnBB said:
Hi MiyukiBB. I know a friend who had her daily stim jabs done at GP as she couldn't do it herself and her hubby also too scared. She paid about $20 per visit so one cycle paid GP about $200+ but that's sometime ago so not sure of the charges now.

The nurse will teach and demo how to do the jab. It's not easy and I really salute many of the sisters who inject themselves.Like others mentioned, grit your teeth, focus on wanting bb, inhale deep deep and get through first jab. Subsequent jabs should get easier.

Try to avoid vigorous or strenuous activities during stim and immediately after ER to avoid ovarian torsion. In fact you are likely to feel discomfort and bloated esp if you respond well with many follicles such that barring you from these activities. When you feel better after ET, can do light exercise like brisk walking to enhance blood circulation & relaxation.

Maybe can consider adult colouring books to destress? Try not to stress as not good for you. When you have done all you can, rem that the last best thing you can do for yourself is to stay positive. Jia you & all the best!
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Hi DawnBB,

Hope i'm able to inject myself. If not, worse case will get my GP to do for me.

Good suggestions for colouring book. I bought secret garden but was too busy to colour. I can pick it up again to occupy my mind. Thanks
 
babysoon said:
For BT results, they will call even is BFN?
Do we have to wait go can go home straight after?
If BFP, need to collect meds?
First time. :)
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Yes they will call in both situations.

If BFP, you will need to return to the clinic where they will assess if you need further medication support and give you the prescription to collect the meds from pharmacy.

If you have already tested by yourself via home pregnancy test and know that it's likely to be a BFP, you can stay around the area, have a good lunch and go shopping before going back to the hospital.
 
MiyukiBB said:
Just started taking Nor E yesterday for 7 days. Stimulation will start 16th Jan. OR end Jan. ET beginning of Feb. BT after CNY.

As this is my 1st fresh cycle, I'm rather stress. Currently, destress by exercising. Can I continue to exercise during stimulation & stop after ET?

Quite worry about injecting myself. Not sure if I will be able to do it. Just wonder did any one get their GP to inject for them?
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I was doing high intensity exercises such as bodycombat and doing repetitive weights training during the first week of stimulation. Thereafter, I got too bloated to exercise and stopped.

After ET, you should just stick to casual walking at most and no heavy lifting. My nurse advised me to be on bed rest during 2 of the critical implantation days. They will give you a timeline after you complete your ET.

I'm terrified of injections too but somehow managed to get by. It's actually super easy and not really painful. You can try once in the clinic with guidance from the nurse. Just have to get through the fear barrier then you are good :)
 
Lufie said:
Yes they will call in both situations.

If BFP, you will need to return to the clinic where they will assess if you need further medication support and give you the prescription to collect the meds from pharmacy.

If you have already tested by yourself via home pregnancy test and know that it's likely to be a BFP, you can stay around the area, have a good lunch and go shopping before going back to the hospital.
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Approximately how long will they take to call you back after the blood test? That will feel like the longest wait ever
 
Hi Sisters does anyone of u know where to buy saizen fr jb? I heard can get the same thing for cheaper price in jb but I dun know where to buy. I called up tmc in jb and another fertility clinic in taman sentosa but they say they dun use and dun sell saizen
 
littlejas said:
Approximately how long will they take to call you back after the blood test? That will feel like the longest wait ever
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About a couple of hours, the nurse will give you a gauge.
Mine was quite suay, I had my BT at 9am and the lab machine spoilt so I only know my results after 3pm while camping at the IVF centre.
 
Lufie said:
Yes they will call in both situations.

If BFP, you will need to return to the clinic where they will assess if you need further medication support and give you the prescription to collect the meds from pharmacy.

If you have already tested by yourself via home pregnancy test and know that it's likely to be a BFP, you can stay around the area, have a good lunch and go shopping before going back to the hospital.
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I didn't poas. So should I hang around?
 
Hi I'm new here. Currently on my 2ww. Just had my FET on 29 Dec 2015. Transfer one 5 day blastocyst. This is my first FET. Had 2 fresh cycles previously. Had some spotting & cramps on 31 Dec to 2 Jan. Yesterday I start having flu, cough & slight fever. Today went to see doc. Told doc that I'm on my 2ww & he prescribe pregnancy safe antibiotics, cough & flu med. Have any of you fall sick during your 2ww? Really lost & not very optimistic on this cycle.
 
Hi babes, anyone on suspicion of endometriosis or underwent laparoscopy and subsequently managed to conceive? I first went to dr Khoo in kkh on own suspicion of endometriosis but dr Khoo said my mensus r so regular and flow is light so he referred me to do iui .. I failed 4iui 1ivf within 1 yr time frame. I just went for review after deciding to switch to dr Tan hh at kkh. He suggested laparoscopy to see if there's endometriosis or scarring or I can just choose to do frozen cycle as I have two embryos left. I'm fairly confused now.. If I should go for laparoscopy .. There might be a chance he finds nothing wrong and the laparoscopy is done for nothing .. Yet there might be a chance to find something .. Is a diagnostic surgery
 
Help needed! I am starting my long protocol jabs today. And can i check regarding the Saizen jabs do i jab using pen as well? Or normal use syringe to draw the med? Anyone knows?
 
h0peful said:
Hi babes, anyone on suspicion of endometriosis or underwent laparoscopy and subsequently managed to conceive? I first went to dr Khoo in kkh on own suspicion of endometriosis but dr Khoo said my mensus r so regular and flow is light so he referred me to do iui .. I failed 4iui 1ivf within 1 yr time frame. I just went for review after deciding to switch to dr Tan hh at kkh. He suggested laparoscopy to see if there's endometriosis or scarring or I can just choose to do frozen cycle as I have two embryos left. I'm fairly confused now.. If I should go for laparoscopy .. There might be a chance he finds nothing wrong and the laparoscopy is done for nothing .. Yet there might be a chance to find something .. Is a diagnostic surgery
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I have severe endo. I've went for 2 laps and got BFP with my FET. So don't be worried ok. However, do note that a few mths after laparascopy, you won't be able to do IVF cos need time to heal. But the good thing is that if you have endo, they'll be able to laser them off. However, do discuss with your dr on what he thinks is best. When I did my IVF, I had a cyst but my Dr monitored my CA125 and when it shows that my endo is not active, she suggested to do IVF instead of a lap. She said that doing lap will take time to heal plus since my cyst is in the ovary, the lap will affect my ovarian reserve.

Unfortunately for endo, they can't confirm unless you do a lap.
 
Hi ladies, those who have bfp under FET , can advise if medicated or natural FET , which one is better or yield higher success rate?, my doc told me to go for natural cos she said higher chance of getting pregnant but I scare I no ovulate... does medicated FET pose any side effect???
 


Mine is medicated.
My first FET was medicated but bfn very likely due to embryo quality though transferred a good grade day 3 embryo.
I have usual regular ~33 day cycles and opk +ve around day 17 and always triple lining average 11mm before ET in previous fresh cycles. So second FET tried natural but had to abandon as freak cycle with a follicle stopped growing at 16mm, didn't ovulate and AF came on day 20. Then proceed with medicated FET, transferred two day 5 blastocysts & now 7w+ singleton pregnancy.

If you have regular natural cycles and have always tested opk +ve around 14 days before AF, and no history of lining issues, can try natural since your doc more confident with natural. Otherwise medicated FET is a definite viable option. Studies confirm that medicated FET does not yield lower success rates than natural FET while there are pros & cons for both protocols. There is no critical concern with side effects from medicated FET as you are given the estrogen pills which are similar as used in birth control pills while higher dosage to help build lining. The estrogen will be balanced off with progesterone support for the FET in the same cycle. After that cycle, your body would have time to recover natural hormones level regardless of outcome (as in you will rest before starting new cycle or if bfp, body hcg and placenta eventually takes over to support pregnancy).
All the best!
 
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