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quokkaa said:
It probably did help me. I had endo scratch as suggested by Doc Tan HH after my first failed cycle. I had a BFP with a high beta for my 2nd cycle though i miscarried both pregnancy sacs at 7 weeks. No harm trying :) we IVFers are willing to try pretty much anything that may help, right? Heh
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how much is the endo scratch? is it scary ? why didnt the doc suggest to me after i failed my 1st fresh
 


Fel C said:
how much is the endo scratch? is it scary ? why didnt the doc suggest to me after i failed my 1st fresh
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Cost abt $100-200 if u private rate. Dr din sugest to me after my 1st failed fresh.but i just did the scratch after much googling.Yet i bfn still for my 2nd...Its just us.We willing to do evryting to make embbies stick with us till live birth...Do whatever we can do... All the best....
 
Hi ladies, what is the purpose of endoscratch?

Helping for embryos implantation to get bfp or a higher successful chance of pregnancy with livebirth?
 
medievalgal said:
How did you find the courage to do ten times? Salute you. Congrats you got your wishes come true. Did you do all 10 times with private dr? How long did you spend for the tries? How young are you? Wonder if I have the funds and courage to go through failures.
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I started my ivf journey in early 2011 till 2016. First 4 tries within a year n half which now I Tik back I was so stupid to follow their instruction blindly
Let's try again . First 3 tries dr wants to beat moh policy, wanna put in 3 embryos before they change policy to only 2 unless valid reason. I Tik that period w 3 stimulation cycles, I can see my hair dropping alot n my mood swings were bad.
Yes all w pte dr.
Like wat I mentioned by the 6th tries if not I got bfp n mc I dun Tik I will continue to try anymore. But dr said proves I can get pregnant so we decided to try again
 
dolly_gal said:
I started my ivf journey in early 2011 till 2016. First 4 tries within a year n half which now I Tik back I was so stupid to follow their instruction blindly
Let's try again . First 3 tries dr wants to beat moh policy, wanna put in 3 embryos before they change policy to only 2 unless valid reason. I Tik that period w 3 stimulation cycles, I can see my hair dropping alot n my mood swings were bad.
Yes all w pte dr.
Like wat I mentioned by the 6th tries if not I got bfp n mc I dun Tik I will continue to try anymore. But dr said proves I can get pregnant so we decided to try again
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I'm just curious
So u had a miscarriage

Then subsequently u ivf again, bfp and managed to give birth

What did u do differently this time to carry to full term
 
Winniewiniepooh said:
Oh I c , I am going to FET in jul too . But they are going to arrange me to endo scratch on 31 May ,which is day my D19 of May cycle. Just unsure correct or not ?
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Hi Winnie, I did endoscratch 2 menses cycle before my ET... According to the nurse at kkh, it's ok as long as do not exceed 90 days from endoscratch to time of ET

It was painful for me, nothing like a pap smear..u may want to consider taking panadol half hour before the procedure

I ended up with a BFP, although I can't be sure if it's purely due to endoscratch but like someone else who mentioned this, if there's scientific evidence that it can help, no harm trying it.. All the best and bb dust to u v soon!
 
hi everyone.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.
 
MichNg said:
hi everyone.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.
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Im sorry for yr loss never lose hope n stay strong..u wil def hv yr rainbow bb one day
 
MichNg said:
hi everyone.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.
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very sorry to hear that Mich.... it's not an easy journey even after bfp... i'm not sure if you considered doing intrallipids? dr thh is a skeptic but nevertheless, i went ahead and did it with a private gynae (who used to be thh's mentor while he was in kkh)

u can google more to find out more about intrallipids... although i did not do any tests to find out if i have any immune disorders, i did intrallipids anyway more as an insurance to ensure that my body does not reject the implantation of the embryo or the foetus (i.e miscarriage).

I hope you find the strength to continue... when i was feeling really down and discouraged, i found strength in others who kept trying even though it was their 10th attempt at ivf and that kept me going
 
MichNg said:
hi everyone.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.
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Hugs... Hope you can continue to stay strong. U ever consider change to pte doc? I got some instag Indo tai tais came to spore do ivf: Virtus Fertility Centre under Dr Roland succeed. more ex e fees.
 
Ttcjourney1982 said:
very sorry to hear that Mich.... it's not an easy journey even after bfp... i'm not sure if you considered doing intrallipids? dr thh is a skeptic but nevertheless, i went ahead and did it with a private gynae (who used to be thh's mentor while he was in kkh)

u can google more to find out more about intrallipids... although i did not do any tests to find out if i have any immune disorders, i did intrallipids anyway more as an insurance to ensure that my body does not reject the implantation of the embryo or the foetus (i.e miscarriage).

I hope you find the strength to continue... when i was feeling really down and discouraged, i found strength in others who kept trying even though it was their 10th attempt at ivf and that kept me going
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Hi there,

Did you try intrallipids and succeed? Any side-effects? I guess u r talking abt dr loh hee....
 
medievalgal said:
Hi there,

Did you try intrallipids and succeed? Any side-effects? I guess u r talking abt dr loh hee....
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Yes, i was blessed to have succeeded with a bfp after undergoing 4-5 sessions of intrallipids for my last fresh cycle...i did it with dr ct yeong from tow yung clinic. I did not have any side effects, other than bruised veins from inserting the catheter and having a small numbing sensation while on the drip.

However, intrallipids is a controversial topic amongst fertility docs. i asked thh about it and he said his opinion about intrallipids is like tcm and accupunture, there's no real scientific evidence that it works, however, as it's not very costly and it makes the patient feels better, he's not against it.

Intrallipids is no guarantee that you will get a bfp, but i did it anyway to tell myself i have already tried my best in trying to get pregnant
 
I had asked thh about intralipids too but he said I don't hv implantation issues so it won't benefit. Will think about it again.
And we actually went to see dr loh before but don't like him. I know he is a good dr.
 
Ttcjourney1982 said:
Yes, i was blessed to have succeeded with a bfp after undergoing 4-5 sessions of intrallipids for my last fresh cycle...i did it with dr ct yeong from tow yung clinic. I did not have any side effects, other than bruised veins from inserting the catheter and having a small numbing sensation while on the drip.

However, intrallipids is a controversial topic amongst fertility docs. i asked thh about it and he said his opinion about intrallipids is like tcm and accupunture, there's no real scientific evidence that it works, however, as it's not very costly and it makes the patient feels better, he's not against it.

Intrallipids is no guarantee that you will get a bfp, but i did it anyway to tell myself i have already tried my best in trying to get pregnant
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How much does intralipids cost? Mus we do any test prior to this?
 
Actually intralipids is more for managing natural killer cells..the theory where your body doesn't recognise that your embryo is part of u and therefore the immune system attacks the embryo, thus causing miscarriages..

There's a test that can be done to see if u have elevated NK cells in your body but I think the test is expensive. I didn't go for the test.

This link may explain it better
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/pre...ds-mums-miscarriage-heartbreak-20140320-3547a

I did my intralipids with Dr yeong from tow yung clinic, not sf loh. Dr Yeong is really good and reassuring, I would have continued my care under him but decided to stick to thh due to my higher risk of twin pregnancy
 
Ttcjourney1982 said:
Hi Winnie, I did endoscratch 2 menses cycle before my ET... According to the nurse at kkh, it's ok as long as do not exceed 90 days from endoscratch to time of ET

It was painful for me, nothing like a pap smear..u may want to consider taking panadol half hour before the procedure

I ended up with a BFP, although I can't be sure if it's purely due to endoscratch but like someone else who mentioned this, if there's scientific evidence that it can help, no harm trying it.. All the best and bb dust to u v soon!
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Thanks sister. I will try before my ET this round .
 
MichNg said:
I had asked thh about intralipids too but he said I don't hv implantation issues so it won't benefit. Will think about it again.
And we actually went to see dr loh before but don't like him. I know he is a good dr.
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MichNg,
Sorry to hear your loss.
For ur case u definitely dont have implantation issues. If you have seen an immunologist and all your indicators are ok especially ur NK cells, then i dont think u will need intralipids. I was also contemplating on intralipids and saw dr loh too but in the end dr shiela gave me other medication instead as she said intralipid was an overkill for my case.

Your history may suggest that it could potentially be embryos quality which resulted in the losses. Did ur transfer good grades blastocysts throughout all ur transfers ? How many times did u bfp via fresh vs fet ? Each stims i trust that dr hhtan did tweak ur protocol and did u see an improvement in ur blastocyst quality?
 
MichNg said:
hi everyone.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.
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Hi dear,

Have you considered trying for PGS to check your embryo quality? I recall reading that mc are largely due to poor embryo quality and hence the embryo will not be able to survive to birth. I know Singapore has restriction on PDS so if you are keen to explore this route, you can try Malaysia or Thailand. I succeeded with PGS in Bkk.

Feel free to pm me if you need more info. Take care and hope your rainbow baby arrives soon!
 
MichNg said:
hi everyone.
yesterday, was confirmed our 4th mc under ivf with thh. of course feeling very sad, but this time we were already expecting this outcome for a month as the fetal growth was very slow.
on Saturday I will insert medication to induce mc and start a mini confinement.
I mainly want to ask for advise on what ideas we can do next as we (and I strongly suspect thh also) are at wits end. our history is as follows:
- low sperm count, not suitable for iui
- slight pcos with irregular ovulation
- ivf with thh in kkh history: 3 fresh, 2 fet. bfp 4 times - 1 ectopic, 1 blighted ovum, 1 no heartbeat, and last one with slow growth
- usually ER about 12-16 eggs but after culture to blast, usually left with only 1 - 2 blasts
- done chromosome test, immunology tests - no issues
- tcm with tsb for 2 years

hoping anyone with some suggestions, advise, could help. thanks and jiayou to everyone.
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hi, sorry to hear your loss. have you done the chromosome karyotype test yet? you may wanna rule it out if you haven't. one of the biggest affect of balanced chromosome translocate, or any form of chromosome defect is recurring miscarriage. if that is the root cause, touch wood. you need to do PGD or PGS. hope it helps.
 
MichNg said:
I had asked thh about intralipids too but he said I don't hv implantation issues so it won't benefit. Will think about it again.
And we actually went to see dr loh before but don't like him. I know he is a good dr.
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hi sorry to hear that,it must be not easy to go through over n over again. perhaps you might want to seek a ivf professional:eg prof ng s c from sincere for consultation for his advise. not look for him for ivf,but as he is a pioneer in this field for many years,he may be able to offer you some advise on wat test to do or etc.eg dna sperm fragmentation test cos sometimes its maybe e guys soliders issues,though i am not sure as yrs can cross to blastocyst. best to ask a professional such as doc of many years in this field .. just my thoughts.

rest well. jia you
 
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Hi ladies, hope that i can get some advise.

I have pcos. Done 2 fresh ivf cycle under THH at kkh. Seeing TSB for tcm.

Both time i only manage to retrieve around 6eggs, 2 is of grade 3/4 quality and the rest didn't make it for freezing.

I got bfp with both fresh cycle but miscarriage 1 at 5 weeks, the recent 1 on 22apr is blighted ovum at 8 weeks.

THH suggested if i wish to go for chromosome test. I was wondering if i should do it. Chromosome test may come back with all normal results, and if it does come back with abnormalities, how will the doc help us?

I have seen dr sf loh twice for my recent miscarriage. He is knowledgable but somehow can be tactless. So it can be quite uncomfortable.

Dr roland chieng seems to have good reviews. How is he compare to dr loh? I am hoping to find a doctor that can help me find the solution of my recurrent miscarriage and sustain a healthy future pregnancy.
 
daylesford said:
MichNg,
Sorry to hear your loss.
For ur case u definitely dont have implantation issues. If you have seen an immunologist and all your indicators are ok especially ur NK cells, then i dont think u will need intralipids. I was also contemplating on intralipids and saw dr loh too but in the end dr shiela gave me other medication instead as she said intralipid was an overkill for my case.

Your history may suggest that it could potentially be embryos quality which resulted in the losses. Did ur transfer good grades blastocysts throughout all ur transfers ? How many times did u bfp via fresh vs fet ? Each stims i trust that dr hhtan did tweak ur protocol and did u see an improvement in ur blastocyst quality?
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that was the cause given for the last failed cycle.
we started with 2 D3 trf for my first fresh, bfp but ectopic then froze 8 D3 embies to culture to blasts for following 2 FETs defrosting 4 each. 1st FET we did endoscratch but bfn with the 2 morulas transferred. 2nd FET, 1 was a good grade blast, which I bfp but lost naturally at 5 weeks. these 3 were all within 1 year, after which thh suggested I look for tcm to tiao my body. we rested for a year.
we had tweaked protocol to try to improve embryo quality, but I didn't see much improvement. last cycle I had pergoveris , gonal f and saizen. only result in 1 good blast and 3 morulas. after transfer 2, balance 2 morulas did not continue to reach blast, so was discarded. this also happened the previous fresh cycle which I was on gonal f and saizen.
 
Hi ladies, anyone of your ever had endometrial polyps removal in private hospital singapore? Can share ur experience and the bill cost?
 
ChasingRainbow said:
Hi @Lovepuff and @MichNg, I just read through the thread. Just a suggestion that perhaps, you might want to consider seeing Dr Mahesh Choolani or Dr Sheila Vasoo as they are specialised in recurring miscarriage. However, they don't do IVF.
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Hi babe, thanks for ur suggestion.

May i ask how will Dr mahesh choolani or Dr sheila manage recurrent mc? They will conduct test to make sure all is fine? Is seeing a ivf specialist doc like dr loh or dr roland good enough? I dont want to stretch my finances too much.
 
Lovepuff said:
Hi babe, thanks for ur suggestion.

May i ask how will Dr mahesh choolani or Dr sheila manage recurrent mc? They will conduct test to make sure all is fine? Is seeing a ivf specialist doc like dr loh or dr roland good enough? I dont want to stretch my finances too much.
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I have not seen Dr Mahesh or Dr Sheila before, this is what I understand: before pregnancy, they do extensive blood test to determine the cause of the miscarriage. The causes varies widely from vitamin deficiency to immunology related issues to sticky blood (I think sticky blood is most common). Once tested BFP, they continue to monitor closely. I'm not sure if Dr Loh or Dr Roland does such blood test to help determine the cause of miscarriage, since they are IVF specialist after all.

For me, I've just failed my 4th FET at KKH. So, I've booked an appointment to see Dr Roland for the first time at the end of the month. My first FET was bfp but miscarriage at week 5, subsequent FETs all bfn. I don't know if he can help me at all, but I want to see him for second opinion. Not keen to see Dr SF Loh because of the inconsistent experience shared by different people.

If I had 2 miscarriages, I would go to Dr Sheila, find out what's wrong with me. Then go back to KKH for the usual IVF. Once bfp, I would go back to Dr Sheila. However, they see patient with recurring miscarriage, which means they probably wouldn't entertain me since I only had one.

This is just to share my personal plan and preference.
 
Went for er yesterday. But before the procedure was informed by the nurses and then subsequently by dr thh my progesterone level too high so may not be able to do transfer. Anyone in same situation and advice?

Googled and just noted some info that high progesterone will reduce likelihood of live births. Any other considerations from high progesterone levels?
 
Lovepuff said:
Hi babe, thanks for ur suggestion.

May i ask how will Dr mahesh choolani or Dr sheila manage recurrent mc? They will conduct test to make sure all is fine? Is seeing a ivf specialist doc like dr loh or dr roland good enough? I dont want to stretch my finances too much.
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I saw dr shiela vasoo prior my FET cycle and i had auto immune issues where she came out with medication plan for me. After i bfp, i am still seeing her until end of trim 1. During my visits to dr shiela, she would update my ivf dr with short memos on my medication / condition via me.

Ivf drs are our female reproductive endocrinologist while dr shiela is an immunologists with sub fertility interest.
Hence if u have recurring MCs, suggest that you should knock on the doors of immunologist instead as this area is not the speciality of our ivf drs.
 
ChasingRainbow said:
I have not seen Dr Mahesh or Dr Sheila before, this is what I understand: before pregnancy, they do extensive blood test to determine the cause of the miscarriage. The causes varies widely from vitamin deficiency to immunology related issues to sticky blood (I think sticky blood is most common). Once tested BFP, they continue to monitor closely. I'm not sure if Dr Loh or Dr Roland does such blood test to help determine the cause of miscarriage, since they are IVF specialist after all.

For me, I've just failed my 4th FET at KKH. So, I've booked an appointment to see Dr Roland for the first time at the end of the month. My first FET was bfp but miscarriage at week 5, subsequent FETs all bfn. I don't know if he can help me at all, but I want to see him for second opinion. Not keen to see Dr SF Loh because of the inconsistent experience shared by different people.

If I had 2 miscarriages, I would go to Dr Sheila, find out what's wrong with me. Then go back to KKH for the usual IVF. Once bfp, I would go back to Dr Sheila. However, they see patient with recurring miscarriage, which means they probably wouldn't entertain me since I only had one.

This is just to share my personal plan and preference.
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I dun Tik Roland do such test. N it really depends how ur mc is. But I will leave it to him to advise. He can be straightforward sometimes but he states the fact. His style is different from sf Loh I wld said .
 
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This is my personal story and its a true encounter on what i went through. I will never forget her. How she scolded me till i cried so badly on the day when i went to see her. I purposely made an appt to see her on the day i received my beta results as i trusted her to give me a good diagnosis, if i fail, and if I am pregnant, to get an tai yao. But I ended up with the worst decision I ever made. Her sarcastics remarks caused me to have a total breakdown.

All visits have been good and amicable until the visit that I told her that I will be doing IVF with Prof. I asked her why, and she said that she's angry that Prof does not believe it TCM and wants patients to stop medication. Since then, the mention of Prof's name at visit is a taboo. Once mentioned, face changed.

My friend had a good experience with her too.
I do agree its about the rapport at times. Anyway, her remarks at the last visits is likely to shoo me away for good since i insisted on seeing Prof.

I have found the right combination of doctors(ivf doc and tcm) and I think its still best to find a tcm that can help us through the stimulation, than to stop medication. I do believe in tcm support for ivf and reports do show that acupuncture do help a lot more in stimulation. For mine, my tcm will monitor the growth in egg size on a daily basis. He even opened his clinic(clinic was closed that day) just to do acupuncture for me when the growth of egg is not fast enough. In the end, 16 out of 18 eggs were mature. My husband went for acupuncture and his count increased 10 times in 4 months, with regular weekly acupuncture and eating of yucky medication and food suggested by our tcm. Then we proceeded with second fresh n bfp.

Anyway, a few other ladies also gave similar negative feedback when I first shared about my experience with TSB in nov last year.

All the best ladies! Hope you all find the right doctors that can help you. Yes! Rapport is important.

babymonkey said:
I agree with snow19. Been seeing her also bout a yr plus. She did not pour any cold water when i mention i m on ivf. I also with prof wong. She explain the reason why she cant prescribe medication while on ivf to me. Is not her issue. But more on prof is not sure what is inside the tcm medicine so he do not give the green light to consume.
So far Tan siew buoy med work fine on me except bit heaty. It gave me the first bfp i ever had nonetheless is an etopic one.
When i saw her after my etopic, she still agree to continue to see me. She is v frank and straightforward person. Can b blunt at times but is for our own gd. This is my personal experience with her. Even my hubby still wan to continue with her instead of switching tcm.
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daylesford said:
I saw dr shiela vasoo prior my FET cycle and i had auto immune issues where she came out with medication plan for me. After i bfp, i am still seeing her until end of trim 1. During my visits to dr shiela, she would update my ivf dr with short memos on my medication / condition via me.

Ivf drs are our female reproductive endocrinologist while dr shiela is an immunologists with sub fertility interest.
Hence if u have recurring MCs, suggest that you should knock on the doors of immunologist instead as this area is not the speciality of our ivf drs.
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Can't remember if I've asked before, what are the specific blood test they checked for autoimmune issues?
 
AmieeTen said:
This is my personal story and its a true encounter on what i went through. I will never forget her. How she scolded me till i cried so badly on the day when i went to see her. I purposely made an appt to see her on the day i received my beta results as i trusted her to give me a good diagnosis, if i fail, and if I am pregnant, to get an tai yao. But I ended up with the worst decision I ever made. Her sarcastics remarks caused me to have a total breakdown.

All visits have been good and amicable until the visit that I told her that I will be doing IVF with Prof. I asked her why, and she said that she's angry that Prof does not believe it TCM and wants patients to stop medication. Since then, the mention of Prof's name at visit is a taboo. Once mentioned, face changed.

My friend had a good experience with her too.
I do agree its about the rapport at times. Anyway, her remarks at the last visits is likely to shoo me away for good since i insisted on seeing Prof.

I have found the right combination of doctors(ivf doc and tcm) and I think its still best to find a tcm that can help us through the stimulation, than to stop medication. I do believe in tcm support for ivf and reports do show that acupuncture do help a lot more in stimulation. For mine, my tcm will monitor the growth in egg size on a daily basis. He even opened his clinic(clinic was closed that day) just to do acupuncture for me when the growth of egg is not fast enough. In the end, 16 out of 18 eggs were mature. My husband went for acupuncture and his count increased 10 times in 4 months, with regular weekly acupuncture and eating of yucky medication and food suggested by our tcm. Then we proceeded with second fresh n bfp.

Anyway, a few other ladies also gave similar negative feedback when I first shared about my experience with TSB in nov last year.

All the best ladies! Hope you all find the right doctors that can help you. Yes! Rapport is important.
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Ya is important to find a doc and Tcm who can click well with u as we go through pain and money spent for all. No point stressing out is not good for our well-being.
 
Dreamscometrue said:
Can't remember if I've asked before, what are the specific blood test they checked for autoimmune issues?
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The typical ones which are autoimmune related are thyriod, thyroid antibodies, lupus, sticky blood, vitD deficiencies, nk cells, cardiolipin antibodies etc .. and when we consult the immunologist, they will be able to nail down on specific detail tests if we have certain past conditions like thyroid , rheumatoid arthritis or unexplained episode of persistent high fever, Deep vein thrombosis etc ...
 
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