Dr Tan Kian Sing from TCM

heatherwhite, heehee, yeah don't care just buy the bowl, any bowl will do. just have positive thoughts when you are buying the bowl. After that you can use the bowl as per normal to serve food. I think the intention is just to show that you are ready to welcome a new member to the family.

For fruit juice, I dare not venture into vegetables except for celery. The usual combi will include beetroot, apple, carrot, orange, tomato, celery. Not all into one cup, but any 2-3 types from this group. For a start, you can try ABC from normal fruit stall that is Apple, Beetroot, Carrot and see if you like the taste. Actually I have friends who said that fruit juices not as good as eating the fruits itself cuz juices don't contain the fibre. So you can just take cut fruits at home too.

Oh, as for chicken essence, I got the tip from the TTC thread where some of them alternate LRD and chicken essence. LRD is to warm the womb and chicken essence to bu the body.

I didnt buy flowers for the bt batok temple but I did buy apples (i think 5) for the zu sheng niang niang at shuanglin temple. We placed them on the altar of zu sheng niang niang. Shuanglin temple is rather big, you can ask the information counter on where the statue is. When you are there, there's an area where they sell joss-sticks, papers etc. You can tell the uncle there that you want to pray to zu sheng niang niang (zsnn) and he will teach you how to do it. Me and my hubby kneeled down in front of the statue (with the joss sticks) and prayed. You can say your name in your mind. Lucky I sort of introduced my hubby in my prayer cuz he didnt 'introduce' himself. haha. Just pray sincerely. I believe GOD will hear us.

If you are unsure at any point, either you can look at what others are doing or just go with your heart. I actually teared when I was praying to zsnn cuz felt so lost at that time.
 


PhyLee,

Thanks for your info. Will go Shuang Lin Shi to pray. Need to tell ZSNN how many red eggs to return during baby first month right? Hope ZSNN will hear my prayer. My friend also mentioned about song zi guang yin at Bukit Batok one. I went there once, but I think the temple was having some events, crowded with people. End up nv have chance to go into the temple. The SZGY is inside the temple? Initially I tot is the big standing golden guangyin outside the temple. Hehe... anyway, will go there bai bai too.
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I don't like beetroot and tomato juice taste. Maybe for the start, I will just tried with carrot, orrange first. Hehe...
 
Phylee, noted all your tips... Hehe...

Having soar throat, cannot drink my LRD. Btw, beside Longan and red date, any other ingredients that you add into the drink??? I only drink it once week once...and I can't stand the smell of chicken essence leh...

For fruit juice, we only take occasionally with apple, orange and carrot.

Must go to temple and pray more often...
 
PGHua,

Yaya, must go bai bai, especially you are in 2ww now? BTW, can we take longan red date drink throughout our cycle or after ovulation only?
So no mood to work today. Why the time passes so slow here.
 
HeatherWhite

Yup, 2ww. Yes, can drink throughout the cycle. Some suggest drink alternate day but it might be very heaty. For me, I took only once a week. Yesterday just drink it and now having soar throad and cannot take my ATY liao...

Don't understand why my BBT is alway so low, today only @ 36.27. Like that then how to get pregnant...hehe...

Try to relax for this month and don't think too much...
 
PGHua,
Mine is the opposite. My BBT always very high, even before O. This is no good too, cos I think this reflect on the egg quality issue.
I seldom take BBT these day. Cos it make me feel stressful as whenever I want it high, it will show low, and want it low, it will show high. Haha...

Actually Dr. Tan ATY also very heaty. Try to drink lots of water everyday ya.
 
Congrats Phylee. U graduated liao! grab baby dust!!!

Must learn all the tips. Chicken essence is to bu the body.

Too low bbt dr says becos of Liang(cold) womb which is not good.

But I drink LRD until sore throat ...Hehheee cos sweet sweet v nice.
 
Phylee> do u hv the address for song zi guan yin at bt batok, and shuang lin temple? Tks!

Heee, so happy for ya! Take care ok? Rem to come in to see us here.

Think I need to get my bowl therapy too
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girls, you all very 客气. no need to thank me!!!anyway, ALL of us will graduate. You are just one/two steps away. Just like preparing for exams, the more you prepare, the better you score. When your turn comes, im sure you will score better than me, 200 marks!!

heatherwhite, yeah I told zsnn how many red eggs I will return on my baby's first month.

actually shuanglin temple is huge.. with many separate temples in it. zsnn is in one of them and in there also housed alot of other deities like cai-shen ye, hu-ye etc. What I heard was, you pay respect to every deity in that temple first before praying specifically to zsnn.

I heard when praying for kids, always look for the guanyin carrying a baby. The same goes for the bt batok temple, the statue is housed inside the temple.

Back to shuanglin temple, there's a wishing well somewhere outside the zsnn temple. Do drop by and make a wish! Throw a coin to hit the bell. We threw many cuz I kept missing. hehe. So better to start with 10c coins.

And feel free to walk around the monastry. It's a very big and quiet place. We also dropped by their charity vegetarian beehoon stall and ate there.
 
<font color="aa00aa">phylee,
Wow! Congratulations and thanks for sharing!
Don't be too stress and enjoy the pregnancy.

I've never heard of the bowl theory before. What is it about? In fact, I just bought several bowls some time ago!</font>
 
Yea..Which type of bowl and any ritual after buying :p

Meinme, why not popular to do HSG? I am due for HSG in Aug.

Went to Dr Fong earlier and confirmed I have pcos and tilted womb - he can see cysts besides my ovaries but he says not a cause for concern - no uncommon and pcos can be corrected by med. Pcos and tilted was not discovered by my previous gynae.. hmm.. Anyway was told to do HSG to rule out blockage of the tubes. HB asked to do SA again.

Arduous journey this is
 
Hello girls.. For the bowl thingie, no particular ritual.. Hehe. Just buy a bowl - any bowl that you need at home. One sister bought a cornwell so she can warm food in it. For me, I bought a baby bowl the first time. Following month, I bought a soup bowl from Robinson. What I understand was you don't have to tell anyone, including hubby, why you are buying the bowl. Just feel positively when you buy the bowl - as if to welcome a new member into your family. You can use the bowl as per normal after that.

Meinme, I have done hsg before a year too. It is good in determining whether the tubes are blocked. It wasn't a painful procedure for me. Just slight cramps when the dye was inserted. I always hear stories of couples striking in the same month of doing hsg as it helps flush the tubes too.
 
I bought deeper plates, not bowl can? I got a few last month because robinson having 20% off for cornwell items. I just feel like buying. kekeke. I bought soup spoons too.

Ok, I shall do it then. Appt fixed for tomorrow afternoon, after that, will have cramps? need to take mc?
 
PhyLee,
I told HB on the bowl theory... Aiyo... hope still work. hehe... How's your check up? Can see your baby?

MeinMe,
Remember to not have any intercourse before the test ok? I experience cramps only during the dye insertion. Remember to stay relax during the HSG, don't tense up the muscle. If you prefer to rest after the test then you can apply leave. I don't remember they give us MC for HSG test.
 
Meinme, I'm sure plates can work too. Hehe.. Just think positively when you first use them.

For hsg, I was back at work the same day after the procedure. Maybe you can ask for mc if you feel like resting in. Need to wait for X-ray to be ready. I only had cramps during the procedure, but not after. What cd are you at now?

Heatherwhite! Heehee. Don't worry cuz I also told my hubby when I bot the bowl. I'm sure it will work just fine.

I could only see the waterbag during the scan last week and I also had spotting the past few days. But it lessened le ao hopefully all will be fine. Girls, join me soon!
 
I been very positive when using them as that is the best best bowl/plates I got so far. kekeke

Tomorrow will be CD8 for me. Yes, I know about the no sex thingy. I still remembered when the nurse told me no sxx during this time, I still asked her to repeat a few times!!! hahahahaha.
 
meinme, how did you find the hsg? painful for you?

during the procedure, did you get to see a screen that shows you the dye going through your tubes? For mine, I can see it and the gynae also explained on the spot. And I collected the xray on the same day after 2 hours and went back to the gynae with the report. The report will say if your tubes are ok.

Did you get a report from the xray lab?
 
Tanny99

I am seeing Dr Fong Yang

Phylee

I bought 2 Corelle bowls. Heh so pretty with small red flowers.
So can use them right?

Having headache man, think PMS! Grr.. I did not take ATY nor take BBT. I went see Dr Fong Yang on CD20, did scan and he didnt say I preggie..haha so I heck with all that.
 
oceangal, of course can use! haha.. just think positively when you use them

cd20 is too early to see anything dear! haha.. but baby dust to you. hope you strike this cycle!
 
I was given an mc by the doc on the day of Hsg.

Oh btw when is dr tan back to reopen his clinic? Need to buy medicine..
 
Thanks Phylee :D I also wish but unlikely la. I have been noti, craving drinking cold water everyday cos the weather so hot!

Tanny99 I am not sure lei. I'm only due to see him on the 19th.
 
Ladies

Need your advice/ opinion on something.

I bought air ticket to go on a trip with girlfriend in Aug but now it will be right smack in between my fertile period.

Should I go ahead? Will you?

Thanks.
 
Phylee, not painful but I feel worst than the delivery ward when I delivered via cesarean!!! I dare not move or see. The gynae doing it never comment anything. My appt is mid-Aug, wait till then to know is good or bad.

Oceangal, if is a planned trip and can be amended, that is the best option. I'll go ahead if cannot be amended. Try to BD before and after the trip. If is ok for HB to join, you may consider to get a ticket for him to go.
 
Meinme, tks but HB defintely cant go.

Phylee,

Is it right that you take
- Conceive Well througout the whole cycle
- Dr Tan's pre O med
- ATY med during 2ww
- LRD and chic essence during 2ww

besides the clomid?

Is it too taxing for the body?
 
oceangal, I would go ahead with the trip if im you. you deserve a break! sometimes trips may delay ovulation so perhaps like what meinme said, you try to BD before the trip and also when you return.

Yup,
- I took concieve well since last Sept (though not faithfully - some days will deliberately forget :p but will take on most days)
- I also took Dr Tan's pre-O medication and went for one acupuncture session. As I ovulated early that cycle, I had to cancel the 2nd round of acupuncture.
- I didn't take Dr Tan's ATY during 2ww as wanted to take a break from the medication. So what I did was just to take LRD and Chic Essence alternate days during 2ww.

- Besides clomid, I was given 7 jabs of Gonal F so it's 5 days of clomid + 7 days of Gonal F jabs. By the end of that, it was already CD12 for me.

Hmmm.. I don't find it taxing for the body? I like chic essence and LRD taste so to me, I actually kind of enjoy it. hee. Your hubby can also take the chicken essence with cordyceps. Jia you yeah.
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meinme, don't worry, if the gynae doing it didnt give any drastic actions, then I think you are mostly safe. My gynae at the time was pretty concerned about the dye not flowing through my left tube and he made comments etc, added in more dye etc. So if yours went quietly smoothly, then you should be fine!

How's heatherwhite?
 
Meinme &amp; Phylee

Tks :-D I was struggling with whether to go and I checked with Dr Tan today. He asked me which is more important. Heh he said for holidays then asked me to skip it la. Heh.
 
PhyLee,
I am here! So sorry... Was super busy at work last week! No time to check my personally mail at all. How are you doing there? Just got to know another BFP news in the IUI thread friend. Hope this good luck will continue passing to all the sisters here one by one.
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Oceangal,
So how's your decision? Sorry, just saw the thread updates.
If I were you I will give myself a break since already bought ticket. Throw away yout BD burden, relax and refresh yourself ok.

Meinme,
When is your next NUH appointment?

PGHua,
How are you doing there?
 
Today, went for NUH appointment. I'm fine, HB still cannot make it after trying things a little here and there. If try naturally, is 3-5% chance, IUI is 10-15% or so, IVF is 20-25%. If IVF, my HB finds it painful for me to do injection and all those chores. Finally, my HB 想通啦, just try naturally, no more OPK/BBT or anything.
I find it's just too much for me to accept when I have to go through the feeling of disappointment cycle after cycle for the last 2 years when the issue is not with me. Every cycle, I'll find ways to improve the situation, be it suggestion from this forum or elsewhere. I'm going to concentrate on my girl's P1 registration next year.
 
MeinMe,

You mind telling us how's your HB SA result?
How you got the statistic? You doctor told you? IVF only 20-25%? Haiz...
I understand how you feel, think it positively, you are blessed to have your girl already! I am still working hard for my #1. I tried so hard for almost 3 years liao. No news at all! This sept will mark a year for seeing Dr. Tan! Time really fly! Don't know how long I can go on in this TTCing journey.
Anyway, still wish you have your no 2 soon via natural. Do drop by to chat with me ok.
 
Heatherwhite, I didnt go after all :p

I know how you feel cos I have been trying for my #1 for 2+ years too.

MEinME, does ur HB eat the fish maw with the med religiously? Read on cos I think it helps my HB tremendously! Feed him Vit C and zinc to improve the sperm quality too. Dr Foong recommended that HB takes Vit C (as he smokes) and I read somewhere about taking zince for quality sperm. Watson has the efferversence type Vit C + zinc.

Gals,
Twist of events for me! I did hsg and found that my left fallopian tube is blocked. It was a painful experience and Dr Foong says its an indication the tube is indeed blocked
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And HB SA is NORMAL! Test is Jan was 6mil count and in Aug its 40mil, motility is normal, only the morphology 1% not ideal but not uncommon among Singaporean guys according to Dr Foong! Crazy rite the difference.

This time we took the SA test in another lab - accordingly to Dr Foong, the one we took the last time in Glen E is not the usual one gynae sent patients to. Glen E - we sent specimen to clinic but this time in Mt E - we sent direct to lab.

Anyhow think Dr Tan's med helps especially the fish maw as I religiously feed him weekly since Mar (except for mth of June)

So now I am the one with the problem with pcos, tilted womb and blocked fallopian tube!

So after this cycle, will probably start on clomid.
 
morning girls, happy to see all of you. heatherwhite, hope your workload eases abit by now.. why not take a break from Dr Tan after a year with him? I mean maybe a break for a month or so for you. Your hubby can still see him! hehe.

oceangal, will you be doing any op to clear the blocked fallopian tube? Now that your hubby's SA turns out great, you still have a great chance with your right tube working well. personally i think Dr Tan's medication works better for men. My hubby mentioned that after taking his sea cucumber pills, he felt that his sperm volume had increased.

meinme, hugz. jia you! I hope your little girl gets into the school that you wish for!
 
Oceangal,
Don't put all the blame to yourself. Not your fault actually, you also don't want these to happen to you.
Think it this way, at least you know where are the problems now. Dr. Foong will help you to solve your problem with best solutions. We jia you together ok?
 
PhyLee,
How are you there?
Hehe... I already taken a break from Dr. Tan on my current cycle. Don't know if I wanna break from him again on my coming one. Will be trying my 3rd IUI. Sianz... HB don't find his condition improving after seeing Dr. Tan leh. He has stop visiting him liao. I will not force him lar. Sometime, I really think it is fated.
 
heatherwhite, im doing fine here.
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can't help to drop by and see how everyone else is doing. Im expecting triplets and since it's considered as high risk, i might be refered to NUH for further monitoring as they have the facilities for premature babies.. Will be under Prof Biswas. Just praying and hoping that everything will be fine
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PhyLee,
Triplets! Waow! You mean all your 3 folicles met their Mr. Right? hehe... You HB is super! hehe... Good good, will pray for you too. Hope everything go well with you there. Keep me update ok? If not, just PM me for me to know your update. Happy for you.
 
heatherwhite, thanks! hope all of them will be healthy. I had 3 eggs that cycle. Think two were fertilized and one of them actually split into two after fertilization so became three.

yes yes, i will definitely keep you updated. You have always been such a great reassuring support to all of us here.
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What CD are you now?
 
PhyLee,
Woaw...you will have an identical twin then! So cute! You must take extra care x 3 ok? Hehe... It will be hard for you to carry triplet. But I believe three of them will grow healthy! And next year this time you will be busy running around to look after your three babies. hehe...

I also don't know the exact CD today. Should be CD29 or CD30. PMS sympthops also reported liao, guess my dear AF will report to me soon too. Got to start my TTCing appointments again.
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Morning, ladies.

Phylee
Woah, congrats on ur triplets!!! Take lot of care and rest more yar...Hehe...happy for you. Keep us up dated, ok?

HeatherWhite
Let all jia you together. New cycle, new hope again...CD18 and bbt still very low, not sure whether did I ovulate...sign.
 


oceangal, on the fish maw recipe, he drank a few times. I think last Sep, I bought and cleaned like 12 portions, not a single portion used, I threw all away #$$#%%^$%^. Don't want to eat just say don't want to eat, making me pissed off by giving all sorts of nonsence excuses like not feeling well, got things to do cannot afford to run to toilet, forget to prepare, blah, blah, blah.

phylee, triplet!!!! either of your family have multiple birth history?

Healtherwhite, doctor gave me that statatic, not sure is applied to everyone or only to my case. SA result as follows:
Count 15.6 (WHO 39)
Motility 7 (WHO 40)
Morphology 3 (WHO 4)

He hasn't gave up, he still want to try naturally, I cannot make it liao, I in my late 30s, hitting 40 soon!!!!
 

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