Christian ivf mums or mums to be

thanks vanilla.. was going to cry.. i thou er tom n was told instead i must go blood test and scan tom at 8 again n the nurse say er maybe on monday...

oh no.. how many blood test did u go before you did er? this week alone i did 3 ( 4 cos cant find the vein) blood test and tomorrow again.. then monday
 


just curious how often do u go to the clinic prior to your er? cos i went on tue, thu , fri n sat n cos sunday the clinic is closed.. i feel tired.. travelling at 8 to the clinic.. WOW those of you who have done it i really dunno so much is time and effort and money is needed..
 
hi rejoice and NZ

so far so good for me. i'm just glad the horror and discomfort of the first trimester is over. now 23wks i think. baby size keep changing. can feel baby moving and kicking already. everyday feels like a miracle. never been pregnant. never know the feeling until now. it makes all these that we are going thru worth it. all the years of trying..........paid off. everyday i thank God for this little miracle and the chance to be able to experience this.

hang in there!!!!!! don;t ever give up. stay positive no matter what....no matter how u feel ( especially during the jabs ) find ways to enjoy the moment. go out, have drinks with yr girlfriends, go for movie etc. do whatever it takes to distract yourself to keep yr faith level up
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vanilla
when i was early preg, i also crave for spicy food! n fried noodles. i can't stomach home cook food
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my neighbor was so sweet, she made curry fish head for me! i lost 3kg in first trimester but don;t worry..........u'll gain it all back!!!!
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eat whatever u can stomach...but no alchohol n caffeine.....if u really crave for coke...like me....drink sprite or mug rootbeer at least no caffeine
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take care!!!! enjoy yr pregnancy
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Hi toy - take care...i did not go to the clinic so many times but maybe becos urs is the natural IVF so need more trips to the clinic to get a better gauage of the prominent follicle? Also my doc is rather kind -- he will minimise the no of bloodtests.

For me, i think during the injection phase i take like 3 bloodtests (incld the HIV test) but most of my bloodtest comes during the OHSS stage when they need to ascertain I am not in danger and need hospitalisation. During those times, i take like bloodtest every 2 days.

Dont worry Toy, rem urs is natural IVF so the doc need to ascertain a more precise timing to get that egg. And a good thing is that u will not risk OHSS - so after ur fertilised egg is placed in u, the last bloodtest u need is after 2ww. Hang in there ok... u will be fine..God protects!

Thanks twin star - haha, today lunch was tom yum...really nice! I would love fish head curry , but now very scared of the smell of fish..Ya did not drink my fav coffee for a long long time...if crave, will drink peppermint or some herbal tea with honey.
 
i took 1 hiv blood test 2 wks ago cos mine previous one expired then followed by day 2 blood test then day 9,11,12,13,14 ( sun need to take blood test if doinig er)..very painful, i cant even bend my hand now..can they take blood from my back side..i cant even write or carry things ( weakness of the hand) very sour feeling n blue back at my elbow.

just curious is it how your tummy feel like after so many needle poke...

i think the blood test is really tough cos i feel so weak that i cant do my work or chores at home cos it hurts when i exert too much force even like hanging clothes.

pl pray that my vein wont collapsed ( suddenly disappeared after they put the needle inside) tomorrow n they need to poke again..it is very torturing..

i will be brave but u know i never imagine i need to do all these... i better save this thread some where so next time can let my child see what mummy gone thru just to have her..

n i was told after et i need to come for blood test too... n i told them pl let me not go thru it anymore... if i am pregnant i will use urine test.. i can wait but dun pierce me again...

twin star and vanilla- pl do come by to "cheer" us on- it reminds me of my son delivery..it was soooo painful but after i see my son i just knew it so worth it.. i can only see needle n blood now but when i see both your posting abt your pregancies and babies i force myself to continue this journey.. cos u all are guo lai ren and can understand what we are going thru.
 
Hi Toy, sorry to hear abt your many blood tests. Blood test is actually more painful than injections. I would rather have 20 injections than 1 blood test. Hang in there, it will be done soon right? When you see your baby 9 months later, u will know it's worth it.

Twin stars, so good to hear abt your pregnancy journey.

Vanilla, i remember my TCM doctor said honey should not be taken in early pregnancy stage. Not sure how accurate it is.

My ER date is not confirmed yet. Tomorrow gg for first follicles scan. Today noticed some egg-white like, stretchy cervical mucus. Not sure if this is normal during puregon stage. I also feel warmer nowadays.
 
I just came home from KK for my first scan. Today's scan shows I only have 10 follicles and they have not grown enough, the biggest one is 12mm and the rest are abt 6mm-7mm. Doc said my follicles need to reach between 16mm-19mm then can do egg retrieval. They increased my puregon dosage from 200units to 300units now. Have to continue puregon for 2 more days then scan again on Mon. I am feeling a bit worried if i will have enough mature eggs to be fertilised or not. I am praying hard that God will do miracles on me. Hope my follicles will grow faster and more from today onwards. Pls pray for me.
 
NZ, how many day were you when your follie was 12 mm? it takes about 2 weeks to grow your eggs, so do not worry - towards the end, the growth is about 2 mm per day. also, with a higher dose, the eggs will grow faster. I am sure by Monday, your eggs will reach at least 16 mm. if you need to jab another day, so be it. no worries, as long as you reach your final goal of above 17 mm.
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toy - soon it'll be your turn - 2 ww... no more needles...

just did my iui today - all went well. now in 2 ww...
 
hi Thistle, glad to hear that your iui went well and you are on 2ww now.. do take care and rest well. I am joining you soon.

I was on puregon for 7 days until my scan showed the biggest follie was 12mm yesterday. I will press on and be positive. :p
 
hellooo i thou i can do er on sat but i waited n the nurse told me to try on my own last night cos they not sure if my egg will be there on mon..but i went to labour ward today to get a HCG jab ( it sooo painful)... how did NZ, little twin star n vanilla been thru all these jabs..

well i was rather disappointed with the staff..few days ago i asked the nurse A and she said no intmacy at all ( i asked cos last time iui the nurse say must try few days b4 iui cos sperm must come out 3 days before iui)..yesterday nurse B told me that they cant do blood test n scan today so asked me to try on my own ( i was so confused but anyone i tired)


but this morning the labour ward nurse pass me the message from Nurse B and she wrote no intmacy from yesterday... she was the one who calledt me to say can try then the instruction to me is cannot try..
well i tried already praying hard the sperm quality will be good tomorrow too and prayerfully the egg is still there..

thistle, NZ- take care! i might not be using the pc for few days if i am doing et but will try to update..

let pray together for our miracle babies!!
 
Hi Toy - dont worry, God will be with you .... God bless on ur ER tom.

Hi NZ - dont worry abth the follicle size - mine also picked up the growth during the last few days....

HI Thistle - take care during the 2ww. Try not to do housework and rem no green papaya.

Went for my scan yesterday, baby has grown - now 4.3cm but I think he/she is sleeping - curled up and rather passive. The level of amniotic fluid is still a concern. The gynae said that usual case is 1/3 baby, 2/3 fluid, mine is like 2/3 baby, 1/3 fluid. Pls pray for God's protection on this little one for him/her to produce more fluid. Thanks v much!
 
vanilla,

could you please kindly share with the procedure of IVF with Dr LC Cheng? also, do you mind to share with me the hard cash spent for this procedure? an average will do if you don't feel comfortable sharing the exact amount. i can't embark on ivf journey right now due to some health condition and i think it's good time for me to get more resources before deciding which RE to consult and to start ivf with... thank you very much.
 
Hi Babylow, i did mine with Dr Foong at Glenagles. I havent really tabulated the exact cost... but just on IVF alone, i guess it is around 12-15K. I will tabulate the exact costs tonite and let u know. out of this 12-15K, 6K will be refunded back to me via medisave.

For me, i was referred to Dr Foong by my current gynae. So after confirm preggie, I am back to my gynae (but still got disturb Dr Foong if I cannot get my gynae and it is urgent).

I went to him first for a consultation --> so let him know my history (for me is fibroids and blocked tubes) and he will see my hubby SA test. then he will advise u on what is for u (for me is IVF) and u can ask him questions - like success rates, how many u reckon u can put in.

Then 2nd visit is day 2 or 3 of my period. He will do a scan and a blood test. Then I will plan when I want to start the iVF program. If u did some operations, then ask him for advice when better to start (sometimes got to rest a couple of mths).

Then the 3rd visit is the start of the program. This will be Day 16 after ur period. Start with suppression injection (Suprefact). at the end of around 2 weeks, he will do a bloodtest and scan to see if the suppression drugs work. Then he will also start on the stimulation drugs - Gonal F. During this stage there will be more scan to see the follicles growth and progress. He will then adjust the dosage. I took Gonal F for abt 12 days then harvest the eggs (procedure call Eggs Retrival). then they will fertilised the eggs with the sperm and see how the eggs matured (how many cells). Then 3 days later, it will be Eggs Transfer when he will put back the eggs back into the womb. Then it will be 2 weeks wait...and then preggie test.

Dr Foong is a very nice doctor. Very professional with a human touch. He will spend time explaining to us and encourage us during the entire process. I have recommended a fren to start her fertility procedures with him cos he is not the type that will recommend something to earn the money.

Hope ur health condition is not too serious. U can start ur first consultation with him and let him know and see what his advice is.

take care and I will give u more details tonite or tom morning.
 
sorry to share this sad news- did er this morning ..it is an empty egg shell.. well will talk to DR yu on fri.. i think she will suggest the injection ivf..let see what she says.

well NZ and thistle- jia you!!
 
dear vanilla,
million thanks for your information. i was following the thread and i came across that your doctor allowed you to rest for 3 hrs after ET and even drained urine for you... that is very good... it shows he is doing his best to increase the chance to conceive, not wanting to take any chance for the embryo to flow out with urine... just to check with you, do you pay one lump sum or according to what had performed on you?

dear toy,
no words can describe your disappointment and I am sorry not being able to do anything for you... please take good care of yourself.
 
Hi Babylow, ya he is a good doctor. Payment is according to what is done. for instance the biggest payment is around 7K and that is during the ER day. the other big items that make the cost of 12-15K is the injections. Gonal F is really expensive...i think i spent like 3K on it.
 
Dear Toy, "hugs"..pls take care. I will cont to pray for you no matter what the outcome is.

Vanilla, God will help your baby to produce the amniotic fluid proportionately.

Thistle, Twin stars, Babylow - jia you!

This morning was my second follie scan. They are growing slowly but steadily. Thx for all your prayers. Although the largest one is only about 13.5mm, some small ones have caught up in size. I still have to cont my puregon for 2 more days. Will be going back for scanning again this wed.
 
toy,
sorry to hear about it. i know it must be hard to accept it es after all those jabs but u have to hang in there ok. perhaps u wanna try acupuncture? it helped me as well. i was like a pin cushion......besides all he jabs, i went for acu 2 times a wk!!! however, it did help as i have pcos...suppose to have bad quality eggs or empty eggs as well....the last time i did so iui. there was alot of empty follicles..all water..no egg. then i read from the thread to try dr zou acu.....it might have helped me. take time off, take a holiday and try again ...don;t give up!

to the rest,
jia you!
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Thanks NZ. Glad to hear that ur follicles are progressing well.

Yesterday I was sms my fren and getting worried (actually I was worried the whole day on the low amniotic fluid). Then God showed me that I shall not worried - the passage in Streams in the desert was on worry and it tells a story of a lady who is a christian and is always worrying. Her son spent hours counselling her also to no avail.

Then one morning she woke up and was cherrily. Her son was surprised and asked her why. She said that she dreamt that she was on a road with alot of people. these people have bundles with them and they look very tired and worried. these bundles are dropped on the ground by devious looking creatures and she too picked up the bundles. Then she saw someone with a bright shining appearance walking amongst them. He stopped next to this lady and the lady asked "why God am I so tired and worried". He replied "the worries are bundles created by the Devil. U can choose not to pick them up, not to touch them with ur finger, but take my hand and you know you will be free".

I cried when I read that devotional passage last nite cos it was so timely that God is comforting me, to tell me not to worry as He is sovereign. If God is with us, who can be against us.

I hope my little incident will bring some encouragement to us here.... I will learn not to pick up the bundles that the devil drops, but to hold onto God's hands and I know my baby will be alright.
 
toy, so sorry to hear your follie is empty. maybe you can consider injectables to stimulate more eggs? actually, soiui is like ivf - injectibles and scans all the way, only at the end, no ER and ET is required. the jabs are not that bad... the needles are very fine...
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vanilla, pray your fluid level will increase. Amen!

NZ - day 7 with 12 mm is very good. i am sure your follie has grown much more by today.
 
twin, curious - you mentioned the last time u did so iui. there was alot of empty follicles..all water..no egg. how did you know the follies are empty?

vanilla - hang in there! The Lord's hand is on your baby... Amen! Baby is well protected in your womb, all covered with Jesus' blood.
 
Yes BabyLow. his contact is 64797267. Another good thing abt him is his Q-management. The longest i waited for him is 30 mins.

Thanks Thistle!
 
vanilla,
thanks for your prompt reply... btw, my job requires me to do alot walking up and down staircases. is he ready to give 2 week HL? and what did he put down on the HL sheets? i believe you are aware of my concern for being absent from work...
 
thistle,
the dr will tell u base on individual. for me i have pcos....in itself most of the follicles are presumed water as they are all not of the right size. then with injections, when i have 1 matured follice, the dr can't tel if it;s empty yet. only wen u do ivf, they will tell u, how many empty, how many can use, out of those can use, how many fertilized.

other than that can;t tell. don't worry. most follicle when reaches mature size shld be ok. have a gd 2wks rest. don't worry
 
Hi Babylow, he will def give u 2w HL. Even more (like me when i got OHSS)...in that HL sheet - just hospitalisation leave, no stated reason why. And dont worry abt ur company calling to ask him the reason cos all hospitals/clinics in Spore cannot reveal to another third party without ur consent - patient confidentiality.
 
vanilla,
did you inform your company about your ivf? if not, what did you tell them? though mine is still a long way, but now, i gotta think of excuses as I was away for 3 weeks for my laproscopy and hysteroscopy last year...
 
Hi Babylow, only my immediate boss and the team (2 others) know. The rest did not really asked. My HR also did not ask this time (though last yr for my lap 2 wks HL HR asked)...I came back and just handed over my 5w HL to HR and quickly leave the room.
 
hi ladies, i feel much better after the cry..actually my prayer last night was pl dun let me go er unless there is egg.. i was so sad they did blood test again today and a scan and the follicle is 16.5 and even poke my hand (ouch!)to put the plug..

i was like the last time when i was in ot WAS during delivery..why am i here again? i cant believe that i was going thru all these just to get pregnant when others just get pregnant so easily..

during er it was so fast immediately when the nurse told me is empty (cos i thought the egg is out as they told me they might pass the ovulation n the egg has burst) i was okay but once i was more alert i cant believe my follicle is gone i kept asking the nurse they say let dr yu talked to u on fri we cant explain to u...

i wanted to leave there n it was 915 but they wont allow i refused to let my husb come and fetch me. in my heart i just want to go home immediately and cry cry cry..finally they released me at 12.. once i reached home i checked on empty follicle from internet and started crying... when i tried iui last time it was like okay God closed this door n will open the next..then now ivf revealed an empty egg shell..is God telling me that factory is closed? used the money , energy and time for other thingsin life..


i dunno... i will think thru carefully.. angry with hubby too cos i think guys are not that sad ... maybe cos he just 1 blood test n 1 specimen ...since this thur i was at sgh everyday at 7 plus in the morning..imagine me climbing out of bed to rush to sgh ( the dist from the mrt to sgh) cos of this desire to see my egg hatch.. we dun have a car n my hse is not near sgh..it was very tiring but this hope kept me going..but that hope is empty.

but i guess no one can guarantee success.. what sadden me was the bill for all this is 3400.. for nothing but a lot of tears n pain.. if not er today then it might be cheaper.. n cos if i utilise my medisave it will be wasted cos 1st attempt is 6k..but if i used cash i will be even sadder so i will think what to use later...

3400 i can get my son a cheao piano or send him for some enrichment classes..

thanks for letting me let out... i dunno if i am a step nearer to my desire of a baby or many steps away from my desire..

i might have fallen, badly bruised n heart broken n very crushed inside but i pray i will stand strong n listen to what God want me to do next..
 
Hi Toy,

My heart feels for you. It is very disheartenening to know what you had gone through. No one knows what lies ahead coz there are so many uncertainties. I believe God won't let you go through all these and leave you in despair. Pls trust Him. There must be something from Him.
 
toy,
i;m so sorry, u can just vent it out. we are all here to be each others pillar and encouragement.
i'm a little confused.......sorry, i didn;t read to update...one follicle? u doing ivf right? no puregon stimulation to get more follicles? u mean u did a natural cycle? normally for ivf, they will give u stimulation jabs to get more follicles as not all can be used one.out of manybe 15, 10 is viable than out of 10, 6 fertilize....something like that...then u can choose to put in 2 or 3 fertilized follicle to increase yr chances. did yr dr advise u on that? if cost is a concern. alot of people in the forum goes to S.F loh from KKH. he's a christian dr. perhaps you'll want to try him? he has very high success hit rate as well. one of my friend just got preg thru him..on her first try on ivf.

i'm sorry for what u have gone thru. it must be hard to pick up from here but u must be strong. if u need any help, u can PM me and we can chat. i will try my best to ans yr ques and help u thru?

take care !
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little twin star mine is natural cycle cos i scared of needles but helfway thru i realised that i need to be closely monitored n need to take blood test...that is just as bad..


i think what was not discussed well is that the cost..natural cycle is costly too n the returns is not high..but the dr told me that usually nature produces the best egg so even though it is one but it is best egg so i though well i doubt i can handle twins or triplets so 1 will be great..

but only when i read other threads then i know that some has soooo many eggs but only few are fertilised..n i have only 1 and only 1.. i dunno there is such thing called empty follicle if not i would have consider the cost n tried ivf with in jection...

when i was in er i saw all the machine and iwas scared n told the nurse better be my 1st and last attempt..er is not that bad everything tooo fast but was knowing that all the cost comes to nought is hearbreaking..i heard the nurse told the earlier pt she has 5 eggs n i was crushed..


i will talk to the gynae on fri n see what options for me..but i will take a break and maybe tried tcm...and unless i am very sure it is from God to try again i might just stop... i told hubby he must pray until very very certain before i will attempt the full ivf in jection- u know half way thru tis natural ivf h i feel like dropping out cos i m so tired of blood test..

thanks for your concern.. i still love to hear gd news from all of you... u see when i hear your gd news i might have the confidence again to try the ivf cycle again...

NZ hope to hear gd news from u...roughly when is your er?
 
toy, if you are afraid of blood test, you can do ivf with TMC Dr Cheng. He does not require blood tests, except for the first. throughout the ivf, you just need to go back for scan to check on the follie size.

and yes, i agree with you, we only need one good egg - and nature will produce the best. why don't you go for another round of natural ivf? i have been through 5 rounds of soiui - some successful, some not - i am sure if you preserve, you will get a good cycle where there is one good egg.... i pray all will work out for you - in the meantime, trust in the Lord.... have confidence in His mercy, for when you think He is a long way from you, He is often quite near....
 
dear toy,
i am glad that you sound better today and i like your idea of going for tcm for a while. well, i think in a way your body has suffered despite natural ivf, because all the stress that you have gone through and the trauma your ovary underwent during ER. are you still on MC or back to work? perhaps, this experience made us aware that not every follicle has egg and your experience makes me realise that i should not take things for granted. i would like to thank you for sharing so much information about yourself. #hug you#
 
thistle,

how much do you spend on your every cycle of so-iui? are you seeing doctor Dr LC cheng? money has been quite an issue for me as I spent so much past two years on my health and fertility issues. heart pain and this year i am telling myself to be prudent on spending on doctors. sometimes, i just wonder how sisters here manage to spend so much on several cycles of IVFs / so-iuis... please enlighten me... thus, i must be persevere to continue working to achieve my and my family's dream...
 
gals,
i am think since i still have plenty of time to plan for my ivf, i might as well do some research on the monies spent on RE for ivf. at times, i feel like telling myself to stop searching and just go for KKIVF as it's cheaper..

gals,
ask your opinion, should i just stop doing research and kuai kuai go to KKIVF when time is ripe or should i pay slightly more to get a more personalised service from RE? Right now, i am starting to save all over again. btw, care paragon have this Financial Assistance service and heheh, i might try it out...
 
Baby Low - in my view, you should get an RE that you are comfortable with. at kkivf, i heard Dr Loh is not as personalised... does he attend to you on every visit? At tmc, Dr Cheng is very personalised and empathatic, that's what i liked abt him. further, there are less protocol involved, i.e., you do not need to go back everyday during your 2ww... you just need to rest at home and complete the 2 pregnal jabs and the duphaston medication.

for each so-iui, i spend about $2.5 - 4K, depending on how much gonal-F i required. some cycles, i required more, some cycles, less. After completing 5 cycles, i roughly estimate i spent about $16K.

Note that I delivered a baby via my 1st so-iui, was preg for my 4th so-iui but went for D and C at 9 weeks due to blighted ovum. i am now in my 2ww - 5th cycle.
 
HI BabyLow, i have tabulated and I have spent close to 15K for the IVF. It does seem alot, but then I have to admit the service is good and I dun have to wait. Dr Foong is always there for his patients, so we feel very safe...

Hi Toy, I will pray for u... u have been very brave to start this natural iVF cycle -- doing the bloodtests..to be honest I doubt the normal IVF cycle does so much bloodtest. Take time to pray and think what u want to do next. No matter what, everything will be God's will and He will be with u always.
 
hi Toy, hope you are recovering well. Btw, I am not told when my ER will be, probably this Fri i think. Going back for my 3rd scan tomorrow.

hi babylow, i am with kkivf, under SFLoh. It's true that there is no personalisation in kk. SFLoh doesn't attend to me in every visit during this ivf journey. The last time i saw him was when he signed me up to start ivf. I will only see him again during my ER and ET. B4 i embarked on ivf, i ever thought of switching to another gynae but stayed back due to his experience and lower cost in kk. By now, i am more or less used to it. Cost aside, i think having a good gynae whom you trust is also very important.

Today is my 11th day on puregon and i noticed there is some milky cervical discharge. A few days ago, i also noticed some egg white stretchy mucus. Does anyone know if this is normal?
 
toy,

ttc journey is full of trial and error. i had my fair share and hubby even joked that in this span of 3 over years, we've already seen almost all the top fertility specialist in singapore!!! try this dr for iui, then another for so iui, not to mention those clomid cycles as well. i really understand yr fear of needles...........
told hubby i've never been poked so much in my entire life! on top of the injections i still did acupuncture
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i didn't know how i managed to pull through that period of time.....i can only conclude.....it must have been grace grace!!!! the harder the journey, the more God will slide us through by grace.

if this is what u desire.....don't give up!
we are all in this together. u are not alone
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take a break gather yr strength and come back stronger
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nz,
kkh is like that one...........horrible service! actually i don't even call it service.......more like polyclinic. however s,f loh is a good dr ( you are in good hands )...just that he's so busy. everyone looks for him. hard to get personalize service. it took me awhile to get used to it. however, u can always jump elsewhere once u succeed
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to be honest i never know it is sooo costly to have a baby... when i am married, i started seeing Ann tan n got to pay so much just to know how to have initmacy ..well she is very fast while treating me for my condition she also sign me up for blood test and hubby for sperm test cos she say take 2 hands to clap and she is gd cos i found out i have PCOS... i was like crying cos spent so much money just to finally have 1 child when my other friends just did it - one even on her wedding night.. super fertile!

Now this time, i spent close to 7k (many times compared to the first child) for all the consultation ( i remember once see my gynae just to hear him say do iui cost me 50 plus, only few minutes ..), 2 failed iui and now ivf just to know i have empty follicle but i take comfort that we know abt this and work to resolve this problem..

but when i see what some of you spent i really feel that u not only been thru so much financially but also emotionally tooo.. i feel at least i m not alone in this journey.. i am not rich but i know a child is priceless n i will rather spend $ to try for a child then a new bag or dress..


thistle- just curious have u thou of ivf since so-iui is quite close to ivf?

i also believe that the service comes with a price.. i very much want to see ann tan but i read that she is very costly for ivf..

sgh care- i feel the nurses and drs are too bz,i also dun feel the personalised touch... in fact i wish i can talk to my dr right after er cos i want to know what is happening to me? but all i can hear n see are the nurses clearing up n i asked them n they say better let the dr talked to u on friday..

i was telling a close frd the only person i want to meet now is Dr yu..thank God for the 2 days mc but i am rather sick today caught the flu bug too... i dun think i want to talk to anybody/ see anyone at the moment, just find solace here which all of you have been great comfort to me...

I remember someone wrote abt complaining of no shoes only to see someone without feet.. So i thank God that He has provided for me and husband to go thru these fertility treatment... sorry ladies sound funny right but i trying to give thanks in this situation..


i told NZ i made my son sing REJOICE in the LORd last night even though it was raining (pouring) in my heart last night.. i dunno what to do..but slowly i will..
 
thistle- on a fun note, i saw some mums commenting in ivf thread that Dr Cheng is cute.. does that help u to visit him? hee heee

i wish my son will consider been a gynae too .. ha ha cos they earn so much but i think they dun have much family life always on call/... but for now my son want to be a police man n some times a fireman n sometimes a soldier.. he used to want to be a PD cos every time he goes to his PD he get to eat sweets n biscuits.. He must think that PD earns sweets for a living..

it would be interesting if our ivf or so iui babies turn out to be fertility doctors one day..they walk the talk cos they are product of what they are selling..
 
Hi toy... haha ya...i am currently on braces and know that my dentist also earn alot of $ just by fixing teeth...so I was telling my fren hope next time my kid will be a gynae or a dentist -- cos these 2 areas are the most I spent my $ on!

I think I am thankful cos at least here in Spore, we can get this medical advancement and care better than pple in other countries.

Ya it will be fun to see our kids as fertility specialists...they will be the new generation specialists..
 
toy, ke ke... Dr cheng is quite cute... and very sweet too.
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i have not considered ivf, and dr cheng will not recommend ivf for me - as i do not have problems conceiving - my problem is with ovulation. i do not ovulate at all, so i need the jabs to assist with ovulation. as with all normal couples, some months your body is more fertile, some months less. i just have to keep trying till i hit BFP!
 
Hi All, Im new to this thread. Toy introduced me to this.

Toy,I hope ur feeling better.....
Thistle, I have almost the same issue... I dont ovulate but I also dont have monthly menses.. I went on 2 cycles of PIO(Something like SO-IUI, but just do all the injections, n scans and when the folicles are of good size, I will be given HCG to burst the folicles and we do it on our own. Dr Yu suggested IVF as I responded well to the menogon injections.... so not to waste the eggs(folicles) shld consider IVF. But after reading ur entry, I reconsidering! where is your doc from? KKIVF?

God Bless to all of us and I do hope we are able to hold our bundles of joy eventually. It will be worth all the emotional & phyical & mental PAIN....
 
nicole, there are many things you need to also consider. to have a successful so-iui - you need to have good SA from your hb. if SA is good, and you are responding well to jabs, so-iui should work, of cos, provided your tubes are patent. for me, i will stick with so-iui cos i have conceived successfully, hence there is no reason why i should proceed to ivf. further, i do not quite like the idea that my frozen embbies go unused - as i only want another baby. dun think i will go for no. 3 or 4. my doc is lc cheng from tmc.
 
thx vanilla, i think u r right. glad that the cervical mucus is normal.

toy, it takes time to heal. You can talk abt anything with us here.

twin stars, which gynae are you with?

thistle, how is your 2ww journey? Any special experience?

nicole, r u currently on ivf or iui?

hi sisters, my scan today shows the biggest follicle is 21.5mm. Tonight i am going for the pregnyl jab, ER will be this Fri morning. Now panicking about tonight's jab, heard it's quite painful...oh my imagination is going wild again. i need your prayers to support me.
 


Hi NZ, dont worry, the jab is not that bad...r u going to do it at a clinic? Tummy or thigh? Will pray for ur ER this Friday..Good to hear that ur biggest follicle is at a optimal size!
 
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