Christian ivf mums or mums to be

halo,

i don't know how to start but this morning, while i was reading a booklet on buddhist perspective, i came across a passage and the feeling is extremely 'wow'. i hope you all don't mind me sharing what i have read and please do not get the impression who is better than who, basically just sharing, purely sharing.

"some people are interested in the moral implication or religious attitude with regard to test-tube babies. if a woman is unable to conceive a baby in the normal way, and if she is anxious to have a baby by adopting modern medical methods, there is no ground in Buddhism to say that it is either immoral or irreligious. Religions must give due credit to man's intelligence and to accommodate new medical discoveries if they are harmless and beneficial to mankind. As was mentioned earlier, so long as the conditions are right, conception can be allowed to take place naturally or artificially."

After reading this passage, i feel truly supported by the GREATEST as i truly want to be a good parent to more than a child!

toy, btw, has your menses reported? i made appt with your recommended doctor and i will see her soon. also, i am excited to hear more progress of your journey... must always keep us in the loop...

good luck everybody...
 


thanks for all the support and prayers i found here.

toy, actually i haven't thought abt food during my 2ww. thx for reminding me. i dun have anyone to cook for me at home. At most i will ask my DH to boil soup and rice using the cooker b4 he goes to work. Maybe can alternate with fish porridge too. I am not sure if confinement food is suitable for 2ww so better check with doc.
 
Hi Toy, I am very lucky..I live with my MIL so she cooks for me and does everything for me...

I think NZ's suggestions of the soup is great...preparation can be done by ur hubby beforehand.

Not sure abt confinement food...just know cannot have any chinese med / supplements.

I took alot of soup esp since OHSS cannot eat so manage to squeeze like 5 table soup of soup...u can ask ur hubby to buy carrots, celery and chicken, put all in a big pot and boil...enough to eat for 2 -3 days... can make to soup, porridge and even noodles soup.
 
babylow, i think in general Christians are ok with ivf cos of the articles i have read and my pastor is supportive of my decision.

thanks NZ and vanilla i actually told hubby to learn how to cook by this week.. hee hee so far he can cook rice n maggi noodles
 
Hi everyone, Thank the Lord, All glory to His name!

Today is my scan and the deciding factor to see if there is a baby.

And the little one greeted all of us with heartbeat. Me and my hubby and the gynae are so happy. The gyane was very surprised as she and my fertility specialist had discussed abt my case and the chances they deem are low.

But we saw the heart fluttering away and could hear the heartbeat! I am now suppsed to be on my 8ww.

I am so thankful to God for giving me this baby, so that I could nurture him/her into a God-fearing child and person.

Thank you so much sisters in Christ for all ur prayers and encouragement. I am so grateful to all of you.
 
Wow, i m very very happy to hear the good news! Vanilla, I dunno what to say but aren't we glad to have such a good and faithful God? He must have kept your strong all these while. It's such a wonderful news! I hope to hear from you more often so that I can learn from you and also keep each other in prayers.
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Toy, yah, it's time for our DH to learn how to cook. My hubby learned to cook his first ever soup last Sat. Quite tasty though. :p
 
Thanks NZ and toy, will definitely come into the forum to "chat" with you oftern and keep each other in prayers.

Yes, I am still amazed by God's grace to me...He keeps my baby strong as well...

We are so lucky cos our hubby are all stepping up in learning as well. Mine has become my personal butler...all errands r ran by him now...
 
Vanilla!!! U are truly God's testimony!! So happy for you! Your baby is a fighter too! Take lotsa care ya?

I hope i can be like u too!

God, pls dont forget me.
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HI NZ - i am working but this week is given 1 ww MC to rest at home as i get cramps if i walk too much.

Thanks maple babies ... God is faithful and He will rem His faithful servant - u ...I will pray for you...when u starting ur treatment?
 
Vanilla, i thought you are not working coz see your posting quite prompt.
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Actually, i m thinking of quitting my job to take a break. Just feeling a bit fatigue on what i have been doing.

Toy, good to know that you have decided to start this Apr. I started on 29Feb. Today is my 12th day on lucrin. This thu going back to kkivf for blood test and u/s. Hope my body is responding well to lucrin so that i can start on puregon soon. Tell you what. I actually have been enjoying my lucrin stage that every morning i was looking fwd to the jab..haha

Maple babies, thx for all the info you posted here. It has helped me a lot. When did you start your ivf?
 
Hi, sure, will post my first scan...but must wait for my hubby to do it..me rather technologically backward..

Hi NZ - Is ur job very stressful? Maybe it is good to take a break...sometimes too long in a job also abit tiring..
 
i wish to quit but hoping to quit when i have a baby...everyday i am looking fwd to that day :p

In fact i just changed job last dec but doing the same thing again. Rather stressful in a way but with better prospect. Anyway, i am not ambitious, just feel a bit wasted to give up the pay..
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halo toy,

any good news? have you started your natural iui?

this thread has been quiet...

good luck to all of you!!!
 
hello baby Low

i also hope got good news too.but I am spending time trusting God to teach me something out of this experience..

i am attending course by Child bereavement Support (singapore) and 1 close colleague asked me after hearing the stories n seeing the pix of babies that passed away and asking me how am i coping... it is overwhelming esp when you are going ivf to go for the course but i learn from the mums who shared and from their sharing i learnt only those who been thru this bereavement might understand the loss of a child.

hopefully more mums can come in and share their experience too..
 
Hi sisters in Christ, i need your support in prayers...My ER might co-incide with my hubby's reservist. Pls pray that his commander will allow him to take day off on that critical day. And also, to allow him to come home every night so that he can jab for me in the morning. thx
 
hi NZ this is my prayer toooo..we are in the same shoe now!!! i need prayers..very tough decision.

my menses came today which is supposed to come by next week n we can do er in early april..now we have to do er by end march .... i spoke to the nurse just now..she gave me 2 choices- to try another mth or to try this mth but hubby to give the specimen in the morning n then i will do the er alone and get a friend to send me home.

very troubled need to give the ans by tom..

the nurse actually counted the days and estimated when i need to take the menses inducting drug n never know it is so effective that my cycle is shortened so much. my usual cycle with out clomid is 50 plus days now is only day 40..

i will be on my own that means bread after er or et cos my husband need to leave home very early to go camp..

pls pray that er can be done by 30 th march if not while since it is a miracle baby whatever date they can scan the follicle but that my husband can be at the hosp in the morning to produce the specimen..
 
ok we shall pray for each other. God is with us when we pray together. We just do our part according to our responses to the drugs and trust God to do the rest. My ER is very likely to be on 31Mar or 1Apr and my hubby's reservist is from 25Mar-2Apr.
 
Hi sisters in Christ,

I tried to scan the scan photos but they come up rather dark so cannot see anything. I think the scan machine not too good.


My scan last sat revealed that the little one has grown but still his/her aminotic sac is rather small so my gynae is not too pleased with it. Pls pray for God's strength on the little one. Thank you very much.
 
toy, NZ, vanilla, will keep you all in prayers.
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i am not doing ivf, but soiui - in the midst of my jabs. my follies are growing slowly but steadily, RE aiming for 2 follies this time. pray for BFP!
 
Hi Ladies

Long time no chat here. Good to see many of you progressing steadily, whether to IVF or IUI next.

And good to know, Vanilla, your baby has grown! Thats good news!
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A little update of for myself ... erm, total twist of situation ... i have abandoned my IVF plans. Will be going for a holiday soon instead.
 
hi Maple babies,
Thanks, really grateful for God's protection on the little one.

Have a nice holiday..enjoy yourself! Will u be starting the IVF program after u r back?
 
hellooo everyone- thanks for keeping us ( me n NZ) in prayers. My husband reservist ends 29th mar but the er will be either 27 or 28th mar.. seems so fast

Maple- hope u have fun and also a baby too..

thistle- must update us your gd news.

Vanilla- do take care..your baby is a fighter!
 
can you ladies share how u overcome this? the blood test is soooooo painful today ... i keep asking the nurse can do it.. or take as much blood as she wants n dun take again.. for the past 2 wks i have been taking blood test n next wk will be another 1....

how do u all take those needles n blood tests..
 
hi, I am glad i can find comfort here even though i haven't met u guys b4. Whenever, i pray, i have been using names like vanilla, toy, etc..i think God should know who i meant.

vanilla, dun worry abt uploading the scan..it's good enough to hear your progress. God has brought you this far and He will protect your bb..we will pray.

thistle, all the best and relax, be happy. Yes, update us with your news ok..

Toy, has your hubby informed his commander for day off yet? wat a co-incidence we are in the same shoe, even the date is very close.

Maple, enjoy your hol...
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NZ my husband say most likley not soo he will come with me at 7 plus to pass his specimen n i will do the er n then if i can walk i will go home..if not he will fetch me at 5 plus... i worried abt my lunch now.. still asking friend's mum can cook for me or not..


NZ, i am very sad cos the blood test is soooo painful..i really wonder how u took the needles.. i really scared of needles n dunno how to carry on esp after the er must in ject myself..

for a second at the clinic i actually asked the nurse how come men no need to do injection n sooo many blood tests.. i wish i am a men then .. ha ha


last wk met up with a friend and her husband asked me should they have a no.3 ..of course it will great but i was actually grieiving that i m only thinking n trying soooo hard for no.2 .. going ivf is one thing i dun consider at all cos my pain threshold is very low..

and yesterday a cell mate sms me she is p with no2..her no.1 is only less than a yr old and she planned for it.. i am really happy but sad that i am in this state..

but i think i have 2 choices now to go thru it rejoicing or sobbing n complaining. i will try to rejoice in this few weeks.. n i promised myself if i get preg i will treasure every min of it..
 
maples, enjoy your holiday! it's good to take time off to relax and just do nothing.
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toy - will you be able to delay your er? are you on a natural ivf, meaning, you do not need jabs, and you just need to monitor the egg growth till they reach the right size, then ER? so most likely, there will be only 1 egg?

sisters, no matter what happens, let's rejoice and give thanks to the Lord, counting our blessings every day. keep our faith level high, and God will match us at our faith level! Amen!

pray all our sisters will bring good news soon...

update - my follies grew just 1 mm in 2 days - so we increased the dose. pray they will grow steadily, and possibly, iui will be monday or tuesday. pray for BFP and a smooth and successful pregnancy! Amen!

toy - many of my frens are pregnant or delivering soon. in fact, 2 are delivering next week via c-section. i was telling hb, by the time i visit them in the hosp, i will also be preg! ke ke...
 
Thanks ladies, yup, i will enjoy my holiday, kekeke ...
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U ladies be good and take good care of your baby and eggs OK! No strenuous exercises and no unhealthy diets! Lotsa rest and relax ya! Make sure you are all prepared for your big day be it another scan or "ER" or "IUI"! Then rest, rest, rest after that ya?!

When i am back, i SHALL hear good news! God, when i come back, let there be GOOD NEWS in this thread!!

Toy ah, what i did was dont look at the needle when they draw the blood. I felt it kinda lessen the pain. Maybe it was just a mental thing but it kinda help. Alternatively, take deep breaths as they are drawing the blood.

Vanilla ah, i dont know if i will plan another IVF when i am back. Part of the reason why i chose to go on holiday now instead is ... dunno why, i suddenly got very very tired of TTC. So i guess when my desire to conceive becomes strong again then will i think about IVF again bah. Meanwhile, i decided to make myself happy for once and heck, just go on a well deserved holiday and think not about TTC!
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Hi Toy - my little method of not realising the pain in injections and bloodtest is to look away and pray to God when my hubby injects / nurses draw the blood.

Hi NZ - thanks for praying.. me too when i pray I use the names like toy, maple , thistle and NZ.. but I know God knows who all of u are....

Hi Thistle - dont worry abt the size..cos sometimes at the end of the injection they will suddenly grow. Wil pray that God be with u during the IUI next week.

Hi maple - enjoy ur trip and not think too much abt TTC / IVF. Will pray for journey mercy for u and ur hubby.
 
Toy, sorry to hear abt your pain in drawing blood. I had the same experience too. Last week, I went for my bloodtest and before the nurse started to poke me, i kept reminding her to use the finest needle, be very gentle, my veins are very small, etc, etc...i was so nervous that i kept moving away from the nurse and got scolded a bit.
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Yes, it was painful but i just endured for that few minutes, came out with my entire hand as red as lobster. I don't look when drawing blood or jabbing. Can't even imagine injecting myself. So, i think if my hubby can't jab for me next week, i will just go to the nearest clinic to get it done. Dun be afraid, just think of the final destination that we will reach...might help.

Thx to all sisters here! Will pray that everything goes well and hear good news from everyone soon..
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hello ladies came back from seeing the dr to sign the forms.. n forgot our marriage cert...

well i think this nurse must have giving me a big fat needle..it so painful n my hand still so weak now..

i better avoid letting this nurse take my blood test next week..

the dr told us the chances are not high cos we are not putting lots of eggs only 1 and only 1..

so must pray hard that this is God's gift for us.. actually if successful might be a dec baby.. u see i even went n check the due date of baby...hopefully not 25th dec cos the child will be sooo sad cos usually kids like to receive birthday and christmas gifts n not only birthday cum christmas gifts..

but i better not count my precious egg before it hatch..

after next tuesday will be almost everyday scan, take blood ,scan ,blood test.. i think i better eat more liver before i need blood transfusion... i told the nurse can use salivia or not? cos my colleague claims she saw a product in market that uses your saliva to determine the sex of your baby.

i really wish the lady who started the first thread in matters of heart can read what we are going thru... She is asking should she abort. For us the journey has not been easy for her to keep the baby also not easy cos of her debts..

i wish i can do transfer of baby into my tummy instead, save her problem and save mine too.. but in the end, I can only yield to God. all the tears or joy that is yet to come i just have to surrender.. i living at a strange moment now- it is so much uncertainty..

at days i am happy cos closer to my dream of having a baby but at days i m sad cos i know the reality is that nothing is 100% guarantee n the dr told me natural cycle is 10%.

maybe i should take a break like maple...\

sorry for ventilating so much .. maybe i will be more balance soon...

this week is special for us, right? It's Easter and a reminder of our God's resurrection power.
 
Its ok Toy, let it all out, you'll feel better. The both of us have been trying sooo hard. Come to think about it, you are rite, we knew each since 2006? 2 years already, haiz ... But now you have taken a step further while i take a step backward. Dont think so much le, just chiong for your baby ahead! Jiayou!
 
dear maple,
i am so glad about your decision taking a break from TTC... from the bottom of my heart, i wish you all the best and love to hear good news from you soon... may you have a happy and joyful bundle of joy... heheh, so cute...

dearest toy,
let me give you a BIG BIG hugz... you are so brave already... let me tell you this, i have to do blood once bi-monthly, all year round... i know the fear you are going through now... embark this journey with lots courage and you will enjoy your second bundle of joy. okie, GOD, please hear Toy's plea and give her all the courage to go through this challenging journey... heheh, upon doctor's advice, i have to postponed my IVF plan
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anyway, perhaps, it's a way GOD wants me to try naturally... YES!!!

Thistle,
you are so patient and you are my role model... right now i am waiting patiently for my bundle of joy! i think it's soon and coming on it's way!!! good luck in your SO-IUI...

Vanilla,
your baby is a fighter and your baby reminds me of my son who was a fighter, too... heheh, it will be a brave and strong being. i love to see him soon!

NZ,
I really envious people who have started their journey... I will cheer for you, jia you!!!

as for myself, yesterday, i ventilated in the IVF/ICSI thread. well, a friend of mine gave birth to a pair of twins (conceived naturally) and being very insensitive, she told me "hey, quickly go and try for second one" her statement is so hurting because she knew that i am trying hard and i have condition. let me ask you gals here, is it that bad to have big age gap children? at that moment, i quickly hold back my tears and my whole day was kind of affected. luckily some members from the other thread enligtened me and i feel extremely good today... GOD has HIS plan for me and plus my efforts, i know i will make it one... just be patient like THISTLE and enjoy life like Maple and be brave like Toy, NZ and Vanilla! You all are my role-model...

Good luck everyone...
 
thanks Dorothy, i actually wanted to talk to u but saw in your feb thread that u are busy taking care of both kids- i really wonder how u take the injection last time... my blood test is already scary enough

maple- yes we are buddies for so long- even that lady ( solution) who started the thread disappear already... i heard a few of the lady that used to go that infertility thread also promoted to be mums like qing qing etc..

but our turn soon..

well 2009 mtb thread started already...
 
hello baby low..we are in at the same time... hee hee.. actually did not see your comments.. only after i uploaded mine did i see yours... do hang in there

i find what you say very true..to those who see us with 1 baby they will tell us must work hard ok, and then they will continue to share with us their joy of been 2 or 3..

but the problem for us (with 1 kid especially) is we tried very hard in fact harder than them..

i saw some ivf mummies who kids are close gap cos they come in knowing they have fertility problem and so after having 1 they work hard to have another and some times i find it strange they manage to conceive naturally no. 2 or 3 without need for FET or IVF at all.

but for us we manage to have our first one n we never never thought that 2nd one is just so difficult.. even though i tried close to 2 yr for my 1st one at least i did not subject myself to so many blood test like now and even need to do ivf then..

and it really makes us cry very badly cos usually people tend not to ask those without kids after many yrs of marriage ( cos they also feel awkward) but for us with 1 kid, they tend to think we are not trying n will share tons of joy the kids have with each other

give your 1 gd example: my colleague told me must bring your son to airport, my 2 kids love it.. and i said my son say is boring not much toy shop around n just see people n plane only... then she said oh i see cos you have only 1 i forgot, my 2 kids enjoy the space to play catching with each other, u know when u put two kids together they will just enjoy themselves somuch even if got no toys... hey u must try for another child your son tooo lonely..

in my heart i was like as if i dunno...

then last sat saw a frd and her family- her hubby told me look my 2 kids soooo cute right we are planning our no.3

very harmless right but deep enough my heart cracking.. my passion for kids is not as little as theirs but why is it soooooooo difficult to have no.2?
 
toy,
np... just email me.. i am still in the process of learning...

maples,
u forgotten me... also know u n toy slnce 06...

ya, yr turn soon....
 
Hi babylow and Toy, yes it is rather sad and hurting to see that friends are not sympthetic to our cases. I would always think it as they are never in our situation they dont understand. Dont be discourage or sadden by them, rem God is with us whatever we go, whatever the situation. Draw from His strength.

This week is a special wek as Friday is Good Friday which God has saved us from sin by dying for us. Sunday is a day of rejoice cos that is the day He resurrected and lives forever.
 
sisters, i fell sick yesterday - vomitting and fever... rested the whole evening. pray my fever will go off soon....

toy - your heart's desires will come to pass really soon! hang in there!

i really thankful for sisters like you all. let's continue to cover each other in prayers and support!
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hi toy, babylow, thx for sharing. I will be more sensitive to friends who are trying for second one now. I know their feelings won't be any less vulnerable than my trying for first one. I have a friend who accused me for not trying hard enough that i am still not preg today...sigh. That really made me cry, even as i am typing this. But God has not forgotten us. Like Vanilla said, this Friday is Good Friday. God has born all our sickness, imperfections, etc to the cross. We are cleansed and redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ. Let's no lose heart coz we have a great God who will help us.

Thistle, i will keep you in prayers.
 


NZ, Amen! God has conquered all battles, including infertility and barreness. As Children of God, we just need to stand strong in faith and claim all His blessings for us!

Battling with infertility myself, I have long ago stopped asking ppl about no. 1 or no. 2.
 
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