Hi Angelbaby, I read your post and wanted to encourage you with my story which is a little similar - my husband was diagonised with renal disease (dialysis for 5 years) and I donated one of my kidneys to him. We successfully adopted a child 3 years ago. MCYS did have quite a lot of questions eg: whether we had the financial means to continue to support her should my husband get sick again or if he passes on. They also required a letter from his doctor to state that he is doing well and has been good with his medication, and is fit to be a father. It was quite a rigorous and tedious process but I guess they wanted to check and ensure the child would not be disadvantaged etc (sometimes I feel biological parents should go through the HSR! not just adoptive parents!). Anyway, I hope this helps you to know, that MCYS will be fair, even if we have existing medical conditions, and they are not out to fail us. Whether you choose to adopt or not, I wish you all the very best!
Child Adoption
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@Esther
I would suggest you call up MCYS, talk to the officer, who handled your case,(or any officer whom you can talk to on MCYS hotline) explain to her about your situation. I believe, yours may not be the only case of such situation. I believe, MCYS could extend the DP for another 3-4 months. There's no harm giving it a try.
All Mummies
Wanted to write about this topic for a fairly long time, but had other stuffs to complete.
<font size="+1"><font color="0000ff"> Reg: Adopting baby from overseas orphanages</font></font>
We too like most of you, wanted to give life to a orphan kid, than paying the agencies, But When we started to narrow down the possiblilities or runt hrough the procedures that we would be going through / time line that'll take for the process to complete, we just gave up the idea of giving life for that innocent soul
We were not singaporeans when we started our Adoption journey. Our homeland country has lots of orphanges, so we decided to go for babies from those orphanges.
The following are some of the ponts we looked for while looking for babies / orphanages:
1. Does the country from where we are going to adopt the baby, permits foreign parents (or foreign residing parents)?
2. Whats the procedure for HSR (compatiable for that country)? Do they recognise the HSR approved by any of the singapore agencies ( As for my country only Touch's HSR is approved. MY homeland does not approve other agencies)
3. Look for the Nation's adoption agency (Centralised agency that approves your adoption procedure).
3a. Register with the orphange / nationalised registry for baby with your HSR copy. It would take sometime for them to match you, with a baby.
4. Look for the procedure for the adoption process.
5. Since we are going to look for the baby all by ourselves from the prphanges, we were certain that the fees that were mentioned in the centralised sites were just a estimated amount ( & we have to pay atleasr 4-5 times of that)
6. Since, the baby is from the overseas orphanage, we must look in to the time taken for the no objection clearance from the government. It would well take a couple of months for the relevant authorities/courts to give clearance for the court procedure.
7. Then, comes the part of the whole process of the adoption proces hearing. Very well it would take atleast a year for the vedict to be given
8. Atlast the baby must get his passport to fly out.
When we did a rough timeline after speaking to a couple of my friends who are still looking for a baby, (we did our HSR together like most of you), whom i belive are still on the waiting list to be matched with the baby..(my son is 20 months old toddler now. We met him when he was just 12 days old) & felt its better to approach a agent to carry on the adoption & save ourselves from the hassle of such procedures.
I would suggest you call up MCYS, talk to the officer, who handled your case,(or any officer whom you can talk to on MCYS hotline) explain to her about your situation. I believe, yours may not be the only case of such situation. I believe, MCYS could extend the DP for another 3-4 months. There's no harm giving it a try.
All Mummies
Wanted to write about this topic for a fairly long time, but had other stuffs to complete.
<font size="+1"><font color="0000ff"> Reg: Adopting baby from overseas orphanages</font></font>
We too like most of you, wanted to give life to a orphan kid, than paying the agencies, But When we started to narrow down the possiblilities or runt hrough the procedures that we would be going through / time line that'll take for the process to complete, we just gave up the idea of giving life for that innocent soul
We were not singaporeans when we started our Adoption journey. Our homeland country has lots of orphanges, so we decided to go for babies from those orphanges.
The following are some of the ponts we looked for while looking for babies / orphanages:
1. Does the country from where we are going to adopt the baby, permits foreign parents (or foreign residing parents)?
2. Whats the procedure for HSR (compatiable for that country)? Do they recognise the HSR approved by any of the singapore agencies ( As for my country only Touch's HSR is approved. MY homeland does not approve other agencies)
3. Look for the Nation's adoption agency (Centralised agency that approves your adoption procedure).
3a. Register with the orphange / nationalised registry for baby with your HSR copy. It would take sometime for them to match you, with a baby.
4. Look for the procedure for the adoption process.
5. Since we are going to look for the baby all by ourselves from the prphanges, we were certain that the fees that were mentioned in the centralised sites were just a estimated amount ( & we have to pay atleasr 4-5 times of that)
6. Since, the baby is from the overseas orphanage, we must look in to the time taken for the no objection clearance from the government. It would well take a couple of months for the relevant authorities/courts to give clearance for the court procedure.
7. Then, comes the part of the whole process of the adoption proces hearing. Very well it would take atleast a year for the vedict to be given
8. Atlast the baby must get his passport to fly out.
When we did a rough timeline after speaking to a couple of my friends who are still looking for a baby, (we did our HSR together like most of you), whom i belive are still on the waiting list to be matched with the baby..(my son is 20 months old toddler now. We met him when he was just 12 days old) & felt its better to approach a agent to carry on the adoption & save ourselves from the hassle of such procedures.
estherkohxy
New Member
Hi Mrs Ha, Yes i have approached MCYS & they mentioned that i need to go to ICA to extend, I have also checked with lawyer & they also told me to go ICA. How long did you wait for yours?
ala
Member
Hi, Mary,
Yes.. It is good to ask around so you do not just hear one side of the story... Diff agent says diff things.. Some say baby can only come into Singapore after DP approve hence you can only see baby in Malaysia or Indonesia. Some say they can bring baby in on social visit pass but if you confirm a baby, you can only bring home after his DP approved. Some say you can bring baby home immediately while they apply for DP.
Yes.. It is good to ask around so you do not just hear one side of the story... Diff agent says diff things.. Some say baby can only come into Singapore after DP approve hence you can only see baby in Malaysia or Indonesia. Some say they can bring baby in on social visit pass but if you confirm a baby, you can only bring home after his DP approved. Some say you can bring baby home immediately while they apply for DP.
Hey ladies
As for my lil tod, he was at my house before we applied for his DP. The agent then fixed in a date, just before the end of his visit pass, then we applied for it. The agent was holding all the papers reg our son until we applied for DP.
Esther
I think for our son, it took arnd 3 mths for the citizenship to get through.
As for my lil tod, he was at my house before we applied for his DP. The agent then fixed in a date, just before the end of his visit pass, then we applied for it. The agent was holding all the papers reg our son until we applied for DP.
Esther
I think for our son, it took arnd 3 mths for the citizenship to get through.
bellsbells
Member
Hi mary : I had custody of the child once he got into sg. Cause I can't wait to hv him home with us.
The next day we went lawyer office n mcys with him to sign docs n process dp doc submission. when collecting dp , baby must be with u. At mcys When I collect the dp I also tell them I had custody when he flew in.. They never question me also..
But you must have approved hsr before baby enters into sg.
When I was doing my hsr my advisor did remind us cause she has ever done a case whereby they took the baby before hsr approved n when their hsr had problem, they had a hard time and their tried appealing but somehow the process was too long and I heard they thought of migrating to Malaysia if the cant get their hsr and since baby was from Malaysia. I think one of them had a record of severe depression n the record was in IMH so .. It was really sad to know... I mean can you imagine the poor baby..
To be fair to the babies out there... Pls adopt only after your hsr approved.
Esther : ica having bottle neck perhaps since its year end. ...
Latan: I almost adopted from an orphanage in indonesia.. But the thought of having to do all docs makes me worried. I had a frd who adopted from orphnage and she shared with us her agony of calling mcys n the relevant authorities just drives her crazy. N her hubby shared with us that she broke down crying during the process quite frequent as it was too much for her... But they eventually had the baby in sg.. Saw their bb very strong malay features.. But very cute now he's already in p1.
So depends on yourself. I did check with a Few lawyers and they all tell me the same, as long as the babies can exit the mother country legally, they can do the process for us in sg..
We eventually decided to go through agent cause we just want to save time and move on with our life...
Also when I called up some agencies they gave me the feeling they were trying to hard sell something which I wasn't comfortable.. One even told me she had a few babies with her which I could see... Hmmm... I just wasn't comfortable with how the babies were handled... So just call them up and assess them
The next day we went lawyer office n mcys with him to sign docs n process dp doc submission. when collecting dp , baby must be with u. At mcys When I collect the dp I also tell them I had custody when he flew in.. They never question me also..
But you must have approved hsr before baby enters into sg.
When I was doing my hsr my advisor did remind us cause she has ever done a case whereby they took the baby before hsr approved n when their hsr had problem, they had a hard time and their tried appealing but somehow the process was too long and I heard they thought of migrating to Malaysia if the cant get their hsr and since baby was from Malaysia. I think one of them had a record of severe depression n the record was in IMH so .. It was really sad to know... I mean can you imagine the poor baby..
To be fair to the babies out there... Pls adopt only after your hsr approved.
Esther : ica having bottle neck perhaps since its year end. ...
Latan: I almost adopted from an orphanage in indonesia.. But the thought of having to do all docs makes me worried. I had a frd who adopted from orphnage and she shared with us her agony of calling mcys n the relevant authorities just drives her crazy. N her hubby shared with us that she broke down crying during the process quite frequent as it was too much for her... But they eventually had the baby in sg.. Saw their bb very strong malay features.. But very cute now he's already in p1.
So depends on yourself. I did check with a Few lawyers and they all tell me the same, as long as the babies can exit the mother country legally, they can do the process for us in sg..
We eventually decided to go through agent cause we just want to save time and move on with our life...
Also when I called up some agencies they gave me the feeling they were trying to hard sell something which I wasn't comfortable.. One even told me she had a few babies with her which I could see... Hmmm... I just wasn't comfortable with how the babies were handled... So just call them up and assess them
angelbaby924
Active Member
hi hopewaves, thanks for the encouragement.
hi yuli, thanks for sharing the info. mind me asking, did u and hubby try for a baby after the operation? coz my doc told me can try, especially since you are the donor?
do you mind sharing with me the procedure? if its too private, we can do PM... really appreciated
hi yuli, thanks for sharing the info. mind me asking, did u and hubby try for a baby after the operation? coz my doc told me can try, especially since you are the donor?
do you mind sharing with me the procedure? if its too private, we can do PM... really appreciated
bingbing1121
New Member
Hi ladies,
Can I check with you, did u meet up with the baby's biological parents before you decide to adopt the baby? Or did u able to see the photos or know a little bit abt their family history?
Also, can I know how much is Lovely Baby charging for adopting a baby from Malaysia?
Can I check with you, did u meet up with the baby's biological parents before you decide to adopt the baby? Or did u able to see the photos or know a little bit abt their family history?
Also, can I know how much is Lovely Baby charging for adopting a baby from Malaysia?
Lai ling: I was notified by a phone call from LCCS. I had to go down personally to collect it as they said it was a p&c document.
Blink: we did not meet up with the parents as it was a closed adoption. The agent will send you photo of the baby first before u decide if u want to go see.
Blink: we did not meet up with the parents as it was a closed adoption. The agent will send you photo of the baby first before u decide if u want to go see.
ala
Member
Hi, Lai Ling,
For us, we were with Touch. They emailed us a draft first for us to check and confirm before they print the final copy and we just agreed on a said date and time that we will go to their office to pick up the report.
You seemed very anxious.. Have you waited for a long time and got no response?
For us, we were with Touch. They emailed us a draft first for us to check and confirm before they print the final copy and we just agreed on a said date and time that we will go to their office to pick up the report.
You seemed very anxious.. Have you waited for a long time and got no response?
Lai ling: it all depends if there is availability of babies and also depends if you like the child you see. I think all babies are so cute. How not to fall in love with the very first one you see. To think that no one wanted them. So sad. God was very good to me in providing the perfect baby for me. She was the first one I saw. I hope you will find the baby you want soon.
ala
Member
Hi, Kit,
I think it is better to go through agency as the procedure can be quite complicated and the agency is experienced to guide you step by step... Especially after the baby is already with you and you are still waiting for the final adoption order... It will take quite a bit of stress away from you so you can enjoy your time with your baby,,, ya,,, think local babies are not so easily available and I heard most parents prefer to give them to foreigners...
I think it is better to go through agency as the procedure can be quite complicated and the agency is experienced to guide you step by step... Especially after the baby is already with you and you are still waiting for the final adoption order... It will take quite a bit of stress away from you so you can enjoy your time with your baby,,, ya,,, think local babies are not so easily available and I heard most parents prefer to give them to foreigners...
kit, i am using singapore adoption agency... u can contact john 90680573 Website: http://www.singaporeadoption-agency.com
he is a nice chap
he is a nice chap
ala
Member
Kit, you are most welcomed... I can fully understand how you feel... I was in your boat just a couple of months back and now my dear son is 3 months plus! Yeah!!! I called about 6 agencies, mostly require to travel to Malaysia or Indonesia to visit baby... So I have 'parked' my case with all of them waiting for them to call me... Lotus was the last one I called but the first baby I saw and the rest is HIS-Story! 
ala
Member
Hi, Lai Ling,
Very quick... In fact when we met her for the first time, she already told us there's a baby coming that weekend but in the end the baby did not come as his health has problem so Alice did not approve for him to come and we just waited for another week and then another baby came. We saw him the day after he arrived. Then I went back again and spent a good five hours with the baby in Alice's house and then the following two days we brought him for med check and once through we brought him home... So all in all from the time we met Alice till baby is home with us is about two weeks. I called Greenhouse too but he said I will be on queue and asked me to wait for 2-3 months...
Very quick... In fact when we met her for the first time, she already told us there's a baby coming that weekend but in the end the baby did not come as his health has problem so Alice did not approve for him to come and we just waited for another week and then another baby came. We saw him the day after he arrived. Then I went back again and spent a good five hours with the baby in Alice's house and then the following two days we brought him for med check and once through we brought him home... So all in all from the time we met Alice till baby is home with us is about two weeks. I called Greenhouse too but he said I will be on queue and asked me to wait for 2-3 months...
ala
Member
Alice is usually busy running around and she personally babysits the babies. She was the first number I dialed but the last person I finally spoke to who has the first baby for us who is also the last baby we saw! Got it? ... Think maybe everyone rushing to get Dragon babies cos CNY coming soon... Lai Ling, did you want girl? Mine is boy... Maybe girl waiting list longer...
... Think maybe everyone rushing to get Dragon babies cos CNY coming soon... Lai Ling, did you want girl? Mine is boy... Maybe girl waiting list longer...
ala
Member
You are most welcomed... Not sure about a few months.. Mine came to me about two weeks old... You can let Alice know. But I know Joyful usually has babies a few months old... I prefer new born as I can bond with him earlier and provide him the right environment to develop... Most nannies who take care of babies before they are adopted by keeping them lying down sleeping. My boy gets lotsa tummy time from the start and before three months he is flipping both ways and creeping a little!... Having said these, I believe God will bring the right baby to you... Just like how he brought mine to us and we knew it is from Him!... Press on!
little_nuriko
New Member
Hi lai ling,
I will also be like u, going for holiday first b4 looking for bb.
I will also be like u, going for holiday first b4 looking for bb.