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singsing76
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Hi Srumpee, letstalkautism
Thank you so much for your valuable advice. your advice is very clear and totally make sense.
I am currently working and also taking care of my 2nd one after work, so now i check this forum at work place
I am actually waiting for PD`s psychologist to visit to son`s CC which will be on next tuesday. i am quite anxious and scared.. cant help it..
and then most likely i will see PD for the update. and PD will recomment next step i guess.
As you mentioned, I would ask KKH Dr Mae at next visit, would request to refer us to CEL for early intervention...as you advsied.
now I start thinking why I didnt do more when i suspected something when he was 21month +... since then good 8month passed..precious time....
every now and then when i think of my son, tears just rolling down.. then my hubby say to me i need to see psychatrist for myself..not son...sigh... Mummies, weren`t you like me? am i really abnormal to react like that?
I am really happy and relieve to see this forum to share experience and get valuable advice, which i cant do that with my other friends....
thank you again..
Thank you so much for your valuable advice. your advice is very clear and totally make sense.
I am currently working and also taking care of my 2nd one after work, so now i check this forum at work place
I am actually waiting for PD`s psychologist to visit to son`s CC which will be on next tuesday. i am quite anxious and scared.. cant help it..
and then most likely i will see PD for the update. and PD will recomment next step i guess.
As you mentioned, I would ask KKH Dr Mae at next visit, would request to refer us to CEL for early intervention...as you advsied.
now I start thinking why I didnt do more when i suspected something when he was 21month +... since then good 8month passed..precious time....
every now and then when i think of my son, tears just rolling down.. then my hubby say to me i need to see psychatrist for myself..not son...sigh... Mummies, weren`t you like me? am i really abnormal to react like that?
I am really happy and relieve to see this forum to share experience and get valuable advice, which i cant do that with my other friends....
thank you again..
singsing76
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Srumpee, btw when your son started showing obvious symtoms? is high-functioning the same as mild austism?
is leapfrog good for therapies as its nearer to my place than dynamics...
is leapfrog good for therapies as its nearer to my place than dynamics...
singsing76
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HI Eunice,
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thank you.
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scrumpee01
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Af7680
First of all, your reaction is totally normal. I went thru the same stage as u. Even now, when I tell pple abt my son, I will turn teary. My husband is very supportive. We share the same view abt how we should treat our son n we work as team.. I think u need to hv a good talk with your hubby, cos u can't walk this path with your son alone, it will be too stressful.
I also met a mummy thru this thread n now we are friends. We hardly meet but keep in contact often. We share joy with each other when our kids hit a new milestone, we pour our sorrows with each other whenever our kids are not progressing well as expected, we share contacts of therapists n treatments. Because like u said, our other friends are unable to fully understand what we are going thru.
Not too sure if high functioning autism is equivalent to mild. But I reckon it is because my son's doc does use the two terms interchangeably. Actually , I noticed that they dun refer to the terms often, they will usually tell us the strengths and weaknesses observed. If I m not wrong, the diagnosis by Kkh now is just ASD without stating the level of severity. My son is taking his assessment soon., I will be able to know by then.
My son's symptoms are more apparent when he starts to speak cos from his speech, I can tell is different. Btw, my son's first word is at 26 mths so your son is much better. Another clear sign is that he is still not playing with peers when he turned 3. Other signs include rigidity, obsess with lifts n escalator , obsess with numbers n alphabets and the ability to read n spell at a very young age.
So far, I m happy with Leapfrog. So u can give it a try. Can PM me if u want to find out more.
First of all, your reaction is totally normal. I went thru the same stage as u. Even now, when I tell pple abt my son, I will turn teary. My husband is very supportive. We share the same view abt how we should treat our son n we work as team.. I think u need to hv a good talk with your hubby, cos u can't walk this path with your son alone, it will be too stressful.
I also met a mummy thru this thread n now we are friends. We hardly meet but keep in contact often. We share joy with each other when our kids hit a new milestone, we pour our sorrows with each other whenever our kids are not progressing well as expected, we share contacts of therapists n treatments. Because like u said, our other friends are unable to fully understand what we are going thru.
Not too sure if high functioning autism is equivalent to mild. But I reckon it is because my son's doc does use the two terms interchangeably. Actually , I noticed that they dun refer to the terms often, they will usually tell us the strengths and weaknesses observed. If I m not wrong, the diagnosis by Kkh now is just ASD without stating the level of severity. My son is taking his assessment soon., I will be able to know by then.
My son's symptoms are more apparent when he starts to speak cos from his speech, I can tell is different. Btw, my son's first word is at 26 mths so your son is much better. Another clear sign is that he is still not playing with peers when he turned 3. Other signs include rigidity, obsess with lifts n escalator , obsess with numbers n alphabets and the ability to read n spell at a very young age.
So far, I m happy with Leapfrog. So u can give it a try. Can PM me if u want to find out more.
srumpee and letstalk, thanks for being frank. I hear conflicting things from psych and therapists, and in the end we went a fairly long but necessary route of private diagnosis - therapy - and now planning to go to KKH for diagnosis so we can decide on schooling options.I was pretty appalled at the way the recep handled my queries at KKH - she could not even tell me if I was seeing a doc or a psych, or how a PD was going to make the assessment when a psych needs to do it. I gave up after awhile, so just going to turn up, see the PD and take it from there.
af7680, hang in there. Like Srumpee said, the way you feel is totally normal. I suspected my son had ASD when he was 1, but multiple PDs told me nothing was wrong. It was only when he was 3 and my second child was born and the tantruming was horrendous that I knew we had to do something. I am so incredibly proud of how far my son has come and how hard he works everyday at all the things we usually take for granted. But yes, I am still grieving and I have accepted that perhaps I always will - in fact it was hardest when I saw my second baby achieving milestones, and all I could think of was how my elder child struggled for those same things. But focus on the positive, your child will do well, because you are advocating for him
It helped me, when I was able to tell a few close friends about this, and I knew they would not label my son and welcome him to play with their own kids.
My hubby found it easier to handle the situation when we had a plan in place and he could attend therapy too, and see the improvements and learn from the therapists how he could play with our son. When I say it, its 'nagging' but when the therapist say it, its 'great advice'. lol. I will take what I can get at this point lah.
Since we are sharing resources - we are at Kaleidescope and love it. We considered Leapfrog too, but they didn't have space for us when we tried. One thing I didn't realise too is that some places don't take baby bonus, so you may want to check that. Since we pulled our son out of CC initially, we used baby bonus to pay for therapy instead. Helped (a bit) to defray the costs.
af7680, hang in there. Like Srumpee said, the way you feel is totally normal. I suspected my son had ASD when he was 1, but multiple PDs told me nothing was wrong. It was only when he was 3 and my second child was born and the tantruming was horrendous that I knew we had to do something. I am so incredibly proud of how far my son has come and how hard he works everyday at all the things we usually take for granted. But yes, I am still grieving and I have accepted that perhaps I always will - in fact it was hardest when I saw my second baby achieving milestones, and all I could think of was how my elder child struggled for those same things. But focus on the positive, your child will do well, because you are advocating for him
My hubby found it easier to handle the situation when we had a plan in place and he could attend therapy too, and see the improvements and learn from the therapists how he could play with our son. When I say it, its 'nagging' but when the therapist say it, its 'great advice'. lol. I will take what I can get at this point lah.
Since we are sharing resources - we are at Kaleidescope and love it. We considered Leapfrog too, but they didn't have space for us when we tried. One thing I didn't realise too is that some places don't take baby bonus, so you may want to check that. Since we pulled our son out of CC initially, we used baby bonus to pay for therapy instead. Helped (a bit) to defray the costs.
scrumpee01
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Caramel,
Is your son attending private Eipic? If so u can check with CEL if your son'a centre is one of the appointed private EIpic centre. If yes, u can get $300 subsidy a mth. Leap frog is one of the centers so we receive the $300 every mth to help defray cost. But it must be Eipic programme , not other therapies like ST or OT.
Is your son attending private Eipic? If so u can check with CEL if your son'a centre is one of the appointed private EIpic centre. If yes, u can get $300 subsidy a mth. Leap frog is one of the centers so we receive the $300 every mth to help defray cost. But it must be Eipic programme , not other therapies like ST or OT.
singsing76
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Hi Scrumpee and Caramel
Appreciate your frank and kind advice.
I am really happy to find this forum and see how strong and dedicated you mummies are ..hope I will be like you..
Last Friday I brought my son to ot at leapfrog , 1st session... After therapy , therapist shared that my son did not so bad for first session n she also mentioned that she didn't push him too much cos it has to be a play . Ot also mentioned that he doesn't like to sit on the ball ( those big rubber ball ). Seems afraid .. In fact he is afraid or not willing to try a lot of things unless he likes.. Is it common for asd?
It seems 3 yr old is the quite common age that symtoms are more obvious...
Caramel , what is your kids age gab ? Mine is about 2 yr..
Until now in front of my son, Both and my hubby can't carry or play with my 2nd one .. He will cry or scream.. At the moment my mum is helping taking care of 2nd one but he is leaving soon as she stays overseas... Very sad .. She was my pillar of strength ., I thought my son will accept 2nd one but now my 2nd one is already almost 4 month but still he is the same.
How do you manage "jealousy"? Could you share with me the tantrumming ... Sometimes I m
Just wondering if the tantrum is just normal for every kids over sibling or worse for asd kids?? And if the latter is correct , will it last forever?
Now it's 4am+ ... It has been busy days since Friday afternoon and just finished feeding 2nd one.. I m going back to sleep and hope Sunday is peaceful day to myself and you mummies ...
Appreciate your frank and kind advice.
I am really happy to find this forum and see how strong and dedicated you mummies are ..hope I will be like you..
Last Friday I brought my son to ot at leapfrog , 1st session... After therapy , therapist shared that my son did not so bad for first session n she also mentioned that she didn't push him too much cos it has to be a play . Ot also mentioned that he doesn't like to sit on the ball ( those big rubber ball ). Seems afraid .. In fact he is afraid or not willing to try a lot of things unless he likes.. Is it common for asd?
It seems 3 yr old is the quite common age that symtoms are more obvious...
Caramel , what is your kids age gab ? Mine is about 2 yr..
Until now in front of my son, Both and my hubby can't carry or play with my 2nd one .. He will cry or scream.. At the moment my mum is helping taking care of 2nd one but he is leaving soon as she stays overseas... Very sad .. She was my pillar of strength ., I thought my son will accept 2nd one but now my 2nd one is already almost 4 month but still he is the same.
How do you manage "jealousy"? Could you share with me the tantrumming ... Sometimes I m
Just wondering if the tantrum is just normal for every kids over sibling or worse for asd kids?? And if the latter is correct , will it last forever?
Now it's 4am+ ... It has been busy days since Friday afternoon and just finished feeding 2nd one.. I m going back to sleep and hope Sunday is peaceful day to myself and you mummies ...
Have anyone try kits4kids? i'm actually just enrol for my son and he is gg to start from 1 feb. Any reviews from anyone?
although my son have not started his eipic at kits4kids but i find that the price is actually more reasonable than other. Given a choice to let him attend full day lesson from 9-4pm everyday and where the school mention that ot, st and mainstream lesson would taught.
although my son have not started his eipic at kits4kids but i find that the price is actually more reasonable than other. Given a choice to let him attend full day lesson from 9-4pm everyday and where the school mention that ot, st and mainstream lesson would taught.
Good morning! Hope you guys had a restful weekend
Af7680,
Great that you've started your son on OT! Don't worry, it will take them some time to get used to it all - everything is new now, therapy, therapist etc. In my case,my boy avoided everything, found it hard to try anything new - especially stuff like the medicine ball and swing, because of his sensorial issues. But after a while, he started to try it out,and the improvements were great. I hope you are sitting in on his sessions? That helped me a lot, so I could do the excercises with him at home. When we started out with one-on-one therapy, I also asked the therapist for a list of excercises I could do with him at home, games to play etc. Slowly worked my way from 2min of play to 20min. He loves outdoors, so we went to the playground everyday to slide, climb up the slide, swing et, to work on his sensorial issues. Of course, all he wanted to do was pluck flowers, hahaha...so I bargained with him..5 slides, for 1 flower etc. Once he learnt how to play, he loved the playground and would explore on his own. You can try this too..it's very tiring I admit, but worth it when you see the results.
My kids age gap is 2 years too! And I admit its very tough, especially in the first year. I hardly spent any time with my younger one as all my time was spent on my older boy. In fact, I extended my breastfeeding for my younger one, for this reason. At least at feeding time, he would have my undivided attention. My older son was definitely jealous of the baby, despite our efforts to prepare him, mainly because 1. he could not fully understand what we were telling him, and 2. he could not express himself. For the first year, he pretty much ignored the baby or would scare baby with his tantrums. We saw things improving when, 1. My older son started his ABA program, and his energy was properly diverted and he learnt to communicate better, 2. When he turned 4, he seemed to mature a bit too, and understands me better when I reason with him. In fact, now, he actually gets upset when my younger one cries and will try to console him. He will even try to give the younger one toys, or feed him fruits. They still fight like cats and dogs most of the time! I do monitor them all the time when they are together, as my older boy may hit the younger one because he doesn't want to share toys etc. The main difference I see is that when the boys fight, my older one doesn't know when he must stop. His temper escalates very fast because of the ASD.
Over the past year, with therapy, I have found that the tantrums have lessened in frequency - BUT they are more intense when he does have them. Initially before diagnosis, his tantrums were from frustration because he couldn't make himself understood, so every small thing would set him off. Now, it's because he is tired or he doesn't get his own way, and he doesn't understand why its not appropriate for him to meltdown.Managing tantrums is very challenging for me and my hubby, but we always make it a point to nip it in the bud quickly, before it starts a pattern of behaviour. You will need to find what works for you. When my boy would scream in frustration, before he was diagnosed, I would hold him very tightly and tell him I love him and rub his back very firmly. It worked! BUT no way would that work now! He will probbaly hit me
Now, we are teaching him consequences - scream one time, no one will respond to you. scream twice, hubby or I will remind him to speak properly and address us, or we can't help him. We also remind him that this is last warning before he has to stand in the corner. scream 3 times, he has to stand in the corner for a few minutes, think about what he has done, and apologise to us. We are Christian, and I want him to also understand that we love him no matter what, so when we take him out of the corner, we hold him and pray a short prayer with him. And YES. This takes a REALLY long time, and there are many days when it seems both my kids spend more time in the corner than out of it! If you are consistent with consequences, it will work after a few weeks.But you cannot give in even once, otherwise they will push you everytime. I also minimise the triggers that cause him to act up. For example, he goes berserk at my parents place, as they give in to him all the time. So now, we only go once a week for dinner, and keep contact to a minimum. Its sad, but necessary. As for managing the jealousy, my hubby and I split the boys up, and spent time with them separately for the first year. This way both kids get some face-time with us, without any fights interupting us. We just need to give them time to get used to the new baby, don't force the issue.
Af7680,
Great that you've started your son on OT! Don't worry, it will take them some time to get used to it all - everything is new now, therapy, therapist etc. In my case,my boy avoided everything, found it hard to try anything new - especially stuff like the medicine ball and swing, because of his sensorial issues. But after a while, he started to try it out,and the improvements were great. I hope you are sitting in on his sessions? That helped me a lot, so I could do the excercises with him at home. When we started out with one-on-one therapy, I also asked the therapist for a list of excercises I could do with him at home, games to play etc. Slowly worked my way from 2min of play to 20min. He loves outdoors, so we went to the playground everyday to slide, climb up the slide, swing et, to work on his sensorial issues. Of course, all he wanted to do was pluck flowers, hahaha...so I bargained with him..5 slides, for 1 flower etc. Once he learnt how to play, he loved the playground and would explore on his own. You can try this too..it's very tiring I admit, but worth it when you see the results.
My kids age gap is 2 years too! And I admit its very tough, especially in the first year. I hardly spent any time with my younger one as all my time was spent on my older boy. In fact, I extended my breastfeeding for my younger one, for this reason. At least at feeding time, he would have my undivided attention. My older son was definitely jealous of the baby, despite our efforts to prepare him, mainly because 1. he could not fully understand what we were telling him, and 2. he could not express himself. For the first year, he pretty much ignored the baby or would scare baby with his tantrums. We saw things improving when, 1. My older son started his ABA program, and his energy was properly diverted and he learnt to communicate better, 2. When he turned 4, he seemed to mature a bit too, and understands me better when I reason with him. In fact, now, he actually gets upset when my younger one cries and will try to console him. He will even try to give the younger one toys, or feed him fruits. They still fight like cats and dogs most of the time! I do monitor them all the time when they are together, as my older boy may hit the younger one because he doesn't want to share toys etc. The main difference I see is that when the boys fight, my older one doesn't know when he must stop. His temper escalates very fast because of the ASD.
Over the past year, with therapy, I have found that the tantrums have lessened in frequency - BUT they are more intense when he does have them. Initially before diagnosis, his tantrums were from frustration because he couldn't make himself understood, so every small thing would set him off. Now, it's because he is tired or he doesn't get his own way, and he doesn't understand why its not appropriate for him to meltdown.Managing tantrums is very challenging for me and my hubby, but we always make it a point to nip it in the bud quickly, before it starts a pattern of behaviour. You will need to find what works for you. When my boy would scream in frustration, before he was diagnosed, I would hold him very tightly and tell him I love him and rub his back very firmly. It worked! BUT no way would that work now! He will probbaly hit me
Now, we are teaching him consequences - scream one time, no one will respond to you. scream twice, hubby or I will remind him to speak properly and address us, or we can't help him. We also remind him that this is last warning before he has to stand in the corner. scream 3 times, he has to stand in the corner for a few minutes, think about what he has done, and apologise to us. We are Christian, and I want him to also understand that we love him no matter what, so when we take him out of the corner, we hold him and pray a short prayer with him. And YES. This takes a REALLY long time, and there are many days when it seems both my kids spend more time in the corner than out of it! If you are consistent with consequences, it will work after a few weeks.But you cannot give in even once, otherwise they will push you everytime. I also minimise the triggers that cause him to act up. For example, he goes berserk at my parents place, as they give in to him all the time. So now, we only go once a week for dinner, and keep contact to a minimum. Its sad, but necessary. As for managing the jealousy, my hubby and I split the boys up, and spent time with them separately for the first year. This way both kids get some face-time with us, without any fights interupting us. We just need to give them time to get used to the new baby, don't force the issue.scrumpee01
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AF7680
Like Caramel's boy, my son used to be afraid of many things too. Bringing him to indoor playgrounds and water park like Polliwogs or Ports of Lost Wonder was a night mare. He refused to do anything and will cry and scream if we try to force him. But we didn't give up, we will play together with him to let him know is safe and fun to play. But the breakthrough came after he met his OT therapist at Kidz OT. After about 6 sessions, he began to enjoy the indoor playgrounds and water theme park. He will try most of the things and totally enjoys himself. At 3 years plus, he can slide down from the long spiral water slide at POLW on his own. He is definitely more adventurous now although he will stick to the things that he is most comfortable with.
Tantrums, this happens everyday. For a while, he was very good, hardly any tantrums but for the past 2 mths, the tantrums came back and was quite bad for some instances. And very often is about him not getting what he requested. And we have learned to be really think-skin about it when he does it in public. We will reason with him and if it doesn't work, we will walk away and he will be screaming and crying while running after us. Then after awhile, he will stop. Other methods that we have used are distract him with other things that he like or tell him he will get certain things if he behaves. But there's one method that proves useful though not all the time, that is to let him know the schedule for the day in advance. For example, I will tell him First, he has to do xx, 2nd, he has to do xx, 3rd, he will do xx.
And when he throws tantrums at home, he will have to sit at a naughty corner and sometimes, I will resort to canning.
If nothing really improves, I hope he at least has lesser meltdowns and tantrums then life will definitely be much much better. But well, ASD comes in a package. I started attending church a mth ago and I must say, it has changed my life. While I still continue to face challenges in life, and with my son, I now see it from a different light. Although he has ASD, God also blessed him with the ability to read and spell at a young age. That made teaching him academics less stressful at least for now.
Like Caramel's boy, my son used to be afraid of many things too. Bringing him to indoor playgrounds and water park like Polliwogs or Ports of Lost Wonder was a night mare. He refused to do anything and will cry and scream if we try to force him. But we didn't give up, we will play together with him to let him know is safe and fun to play. But the breakthrough came after he met his OT therapist at Kidz OT. After about 6 sessions, he began to enjoy the indoor playgrounds and water theme park. He will try most of the things and totally enjoys himself. At 3 years plus, he can slide down from the long spiral water slide at POLW on his own. He is definitely more adventurous now although he will stick to the things that he is most comfortable with.
Tantrums, this happens everyday. For a while, he was very good, hardly any tantrums but for the past 2 mths, the tantrums came back and was quite bad for some instances. And very often is about him not getting what he requested. And we have learned to be really think-skin about it when he does it in public. We will reason with him and if it doesn't work, we will walk away and he will be screaming and crying while running after us. Then after awhile, he will stop. Other methods that we have used are distract him with other things that he like or tell him he will get certain things if he behaves. But there's one method that proves useful though not all the time, that is to let him know the schedule for the day in advance. For example, I will tell him First, he has to do xx, 2nd, he has to do xx, 3rd, he will do xx.
And when he throws tantrums at home, he will have to sit at a naughty corner and sometimes, I will resort to canning.
If nothing really improves, I hope he at least has lesser meltdowns and tantrums then life will definitely be much much better. But well, ASD comes in a package. I started attending church a mth ago and I must say, it has changed my life. While I still continue to face challenges in life, and with my son, I now see it from a different light. Although he has ASD, God also blessed him with the ability to read and spell at a young age. That made teaching him academics less stressful at least for now.
bebesha
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Praise Lord for walking ahead of us in our children. God had a purpose for us and our child. It has definitely strengthen my faith in him. Each time I faced difficulty dealing with my son, I pray for strength, wisdom, power to overcome all challenges. It's not easy going thru this journey being alone.
singsing76
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Hi Everyone, hope all mummies here have a good week ahead!
Hi Caramel,
Thank you for sharing with tips and advice
I didnt know we can request to sit in during OT session. I will ask for it. it will be definately good to ask what kind of exercise/game/activities we can do with son at home.
whenever got time, hubby will bring son to neighbourhood playground. he liks to climb up stairs from young. but he likes to slid down only recently after we insist him to slide down with us first. after a few rounds of slide down together, he loves sliding down
For the home activities, as his attention span is short, and he has limited interest in things, i still dont know how to engage him to the activities that he is not interested - example, colouring or reading book together.
do your son like reading book ? heard this is one of the very good way to enhance speech/language but he doesnt pay attention and if i continiue reading book for him, he will force me to close book or throw the book away
due to his tantrum and jelousy, my poor 2nd one is like without mummy/daddy. i really feel sorry for my 2nd one(girl).. sometimes even at my one short glace at her, she will make a big smile at me .. i become teary seeing that...
so far, touch wood, she has been relatively easier to handle.eg. she sleeps without carrying. my son was very difficult boy to handle. from very young, myself/hubby had to carry him to sleep. he was chubby and tall.. so it was very hard to carry him for 30min to 1hr every time prior to sleep..
Not to see his tantraum and crying, we have tried not to cause it as hard as we can.
Hi Scrumpee,
Thank you for sharing tips and advice too!
actually my son is attending to swiming session. but entire 30 min session he will just cry. initially he was ok even though he didnt participate fully like other kids in the pool... after a few session, he just cries and dont want to do anything except cling onto hubby. i already paid full for a term till end March.. really regret.. should have engaged private or instructor who has experience for special needs.. he hates water gets into his eyes..
i also contacted OT at Kids but no slot even for assessment... so we went to leapfrog...
is it possible to share who is son`s OT? i asked for Alvin though...
my son until recently doesnt want to walk. always wanted to be carried. but one day, myself/hubby just decided to ignore him and walked away.. he run after us and cried for a good half an hour..
but now he get used to walk by himself even though he doesnt still like walk by himself for long. still thats improvement.
thats very good to hear your son has ability to read and spell at young age..
my son is not that good at it yet but he is very interested in shapes, numbers and alphabets..so also happy about it too..
Hi Caramel,
Thank you for sharing with tips and advice
I didnt know we can request to sit in during OT session. I will ask for it. it will be definately good to ask what kind of exercise/game/activities we can do with son at home.
whenever got time, hubby will bring son to neighbourhood playground. he liks to climb up stairs from young. but he likes to slid down only recently after we insist him to slide down with us first. after a few rounds of slide down together, he loves sliding down
For the home activities, as his attention span is short, and he has limited interest in things, i still dont know how to engage him to the activities that he is not interested - example, colouring or reading book together.
do your son like reading book ? heard this is one of the very good way to enhance speech/language but he doesnt pay attention and if i continiue reading book for him, he will force me to close book or throw the book away
due to his tantrum and jelousy, my poor 2nd one is like without mummy/daddy. i really feel sorry for my 2nd one(girl).. sometimes even at my one short glace at her, she will make a big smile at me .. i become teary seeing that...
so far, touch wood, she has been relatively easier to handle.eg. she sleeps without carrying. my son was very difficult boy to handle. from very young, myself/hubby had to carry him to sleep. he was chubby and tall.. so it was very hard to carry him for 30min to 1hr every time prior to sleep..
Not to see his tantraum and crying, we have tried not to cause it as hard as we can.
Hi Scrumpee,
Thank you for sharing tips and advice too!
actually my son is attending to swiming session. but entire 30 min session he will just cry. initially he was ok even though he didnt participate fully like other kids in the pool... after a few session, he just cries and dont want to do anything except cling onto hubby. i already paid full for a term till end March.. really regret.. should have engaged private or instructor who has experience for special needs.. he hates water gets into his eyes..
i also contacted OT at Kids but no slot even for assessment... so we went to leapfrog...
is it possible to share who is son`s OT? i asked for Alvin though...
my son until recently doesnt want to walk. always wanted to be carried. but one day, myself/hubby just decided to ignore him and walked away.. he run after us and cried for a good half an hour..
but now he get used to walk by himself even though he doesnt still like walk by himself for long. still thats improvement.
thats very good to hear your son has ability to read and spell at young age..
my son is not that good at it yet but he is very interested in shapes, numbers and alphabets..so also happy about it too..
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Hihi, just came across this thread. My boy 3.5yrs now has just been referred to eipic via cel via pte pd so yes, referral to cel via pte pd is possible and the process is less than 2 weeks from pd assessment to cel referral.
The long wait is between cel n eipic which takes up to 6 weeks, then another assessment by eipic and the wait list for admissions - from 3-6mths.
I am looking for a speech therapist that can come to my home, anyone has recommendations?
The long wait is between cel n eipic which takes up to 6 weeks, then another assessment by eipic and the wait list for admissions - from 3-6mths.
I am looking for a speech therapist that can come to my home, anyone has recommendations?
scrumpee01
Member
Gracelynn
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that CEL accepts private PD referral too. But if via pte, do you know if we will still get subsidize rates at EIPIC?
AF7680
I heard Alvin is very good but he has a long wait list. My boy is with Azmah, just as good. She is able to tell me very clearly what is wrong with him and I like that she is firm with my boy but without intimidating him. So he always enjoys her session.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that CEL accepts private PD referral too. But if via pte, do you know if we will still get subsidize rates at EIPIC?
AF7680
I heard Alvin is very good but he has a long wait list. My boy is with Azmah, just as good. She is able to tell me very clearly what is wrong with him and I like that she is firm with my boy but without intimidating him. So he always enjoys her session.
singsing76
Member
Hi Gracelynn
Thank you for sharing the info. I have the same question as Scrumpee
Hi Scrumpee
Thank you .. Indeed , even for assessment they don't know when that would be possible as he is fully booked.
Wrt ST, any idea if we want 2 st a week , will it be ok to have 2 different therapist or will it be better to keep 1 therapist only ?
The reason I m asking for this is we are trying to change the therapist but not sure if the new one will be good or not so want to keep both 2 a while until we are sure which one...
Thank you for sharing the info. I have the same question as Scrumpee
Hi Scrumpee
Thank you .. Indeed , even for assessment they don't know when that would be possible as he is fully booked.
Wrt ST, any idea if we want 2 st a week , will it be ok to have 2 different therapist or will it be better to keep 1 therapist only ?
The reason I m asking for this is we are trying to change the therapist but not sure if the new one will be good or not so want to keep both 2 a while until we are sure which one...
singsing76
Member
Hi mummies
Any one tried gigg's communication for ST?
Could you pls share experiences with them ?
Any one tried gigg's communication for ST?
Could you pls share experiences with them ?
letstalkautism
Member
hi mummies
i need some feedback from you ladies.
1. is location of the therapy important in your consideration of signing up your child at that centre? or are you willing to travel to anywhere that has good affordable therapy?
2. do you find upper thomson/ yio chu kang road far?
3. would you be willing to sign up at a place that might be abit harder to get to but has good outdoor facilities for your child like a nice park and playground for them to have lessons at and play with their peers?
4. how do you usually get to the therapy centre? do you drive/ take public transport/ try to plan it around your work schedule or have a caregiver drop and pick them up?
thanks in advance mummies! your input will really help me in my planning. cheers!
i need some feedback from you ladies.
1. is location of the therapy important in your consideration of signing up your child at that centre? or are you willing to travel to anywhere that has good affordable therapy?
2. do you find upper thomson/ yio chu kang road far?
3. would you be willing to sign up at a place that might be abit harder to get to but has good outdoor facilities for your child like a nice park and playground for them to have lessons at and play with their peers?
4. how do you usually get to the therapy centre? do you drive/ take public transport/ try to plan it around your work schedule or have a caregiver drop and pick them up?
thanks in advance mummies! your input will really help me in my planning. cheers!
Hi Af7680,
I enjoy reading alot, and I am not exactly super active, haha, and we had a lot of time to kill since I was SAHM, so I read to him alot. Don't worry and don't give up - my son's attention span was bad at the start too, and now it has improved over time. What helped us was getting into his activity and slowly drawing him out. So if he was lining up cars, I would sit first, not touch the cars, and say something about what he was doing, 'Wow! You are moving the cars so fast!'. Usually this would get me a smile or at least a look. Then I will try to get him to tell me what the cars are doing - he could only handle 'what' questions. Then sloooowly I will touch one car, hahaha. If I am lucky, he will not grab it back and shut me out. Or if he is getting edgy, I will quickly stroke a car and move my hand away to show I am not going to take his stuff. That is just the first few times, then slowly we increase the play. As parents we are watching the clock, but kids are kids right? As long as they find it interesting, they will play. And slowly, after weeks, he was able to mimic our play, and even more slowly, seek us out to play with him. And we can do some back and forth play. But it took ages, don't worry, you will get there too.
For reading, its a bit hard when they don't start young, I realise. My older one with ASD will sit in my lap and listen to stories because he is so used to it from young. My 2yr old who is a typical 2 yr old, absolutely will not! So I try to read stories about stuff he likes, or books with lots of pictures and few words. If he is not interested, I will sit down and read to myself very loudly( like a mad person, hahaha..), usually he will come and see what I'm up to. And don't be surprised if your little one is soaking it all in, even though he looks like he is not listening.
I enjoy reading alot, and I am not exactly super active, haha, and we had a lot of time to kill since I was SAHM, so I read to him alot. Don't worry and don't give up - my son's attention span was bad at the start too, and now it has improved over time. What helped us was getting into his activity and slowly drawing him out. So if he was lining up cars, I would sit first, not touch the cars, and say something about what he was doing, 'Wow! You are moving the cars so fast!'. Usually this would get me a smile or at least a look. Then I will try to get him to tell me what the cars are doing - he could only handle 'what' questions. Then sloooowly I will touch one car, hahaha. If I am lucky, he will not grab it back and shut me out. Or if he is getting edgy, I will quickly stroke a car and move my hand away to show I am not going to take his stuff. That is just the first few times, then slowly we increase the play. As parents we are watching the clock, but kids are kids right? As long as they find it interesting, they will play. And slowly, after weeks, he was able to mimic our play, and even more slowly, seek us out to play with him. And we can do some back and forth play. But it took ages, don't worry, you will get there too.
For reading, its a bit hard when they don't start young, I realise. My older one with ASD will sit in my lap and listen to stories because he is so used to it from young. My 2yr old who is a typical 2 yr old, absolutely will not! So I try to read stories about stuff he likes, or books with lots of pictures and few words. If he is not interested, I will sit down and read to myself very loudly( like a mad person, hahaha..), usually he will come and see what I'm up to. And don't be surprised if your little one is soaking it all in, even though he looks like he is not listening.
Oh, one more thing! My son feels very threatened when we make eye contact with him. He is great at looking at people and smiling etc, but when we do one-on-one play, or if I am telling him off about something, as soon as I look directly at him, he gets tense - he finds it confrontational I guess, so I look at him quickly and then focus on the toy when we play. Which is fine I think, after all when kids play they don't stare at each other!
scrumpee01
Member
AF7680
I think not very advisable to hv two different ST at the same time as your child will be confused. And if your boy shows positive reaction, u won't know who is the one teaching it right. Why not stop the current one for a mth to try out the new one?
Letstalkautism, my first criteria will be quality. If the therapist is good n my boy shows improvement, I dun mind the venue. The second consideration is affordability. Lastly, my husband drives so distance is not so much of an issue.
I think not very advisable to hv two different ST at the same time as your child will be confused. And if your boy shows positive reaction, u won't know who is the one teaching it right. Why not stop the current one for a mth to try out the new one?
Letstalkautism, my first criteria will be quality. If the therapist is good n my boy shows improvement, I dun mind the venue. The second consideration is affordability. Lastly, my husband drives so distance is not so much of an issue.
Hi Let'stalk,
1. is location of the therapy important in your consideration of signing up your child at that centre? or are you willing to travel to anywhere that has good affordable therapy?
Location is important for us. My son can get super cranky if we mess up the routine,especially if he needs a nap or a meal, so accessibility is important. I have been to therapy sessions before which were a total waste of time as he was just too tired to focus.
2. do you find upper thomson/ yio chu kang road far?
Depends. The area is central, but somewhere with MRT is best, for us at least! We don't have to wait as long for trains compared to buses, and we don't have to navigate lots of steps.
3. would you be willing to sign up at a place that might be abit harder to get to but has good outdoor facilities for your child like a nice park and playground for them to have lessons at and play with their peers?
No, because chances are, we will get there super late everyday, and so won't be able to utilise the facilities fully.
4. how do you usually get to the therapy centre? do you drive/ take public transport/ try to plan it around your work schedule or have a caregiver drop and pick them up?
Its a mix of everything for us. Sometimes we get a lift in a car from a family member to therapy, just to make it on time, but we take the bus home as my son enjoys the journey and its a way for him to slowly unwind after a long day. We work it around my schedule as I attend all his sessions with him.
If I can just add one more thing? I think what I would really appreciate as a parent is a full-service centre, which offers tie ups with a PD who deals with special needs kids as well as a nutritionist.before we had my son diagnosed, he had major issues with food allergies, and sever constipation.If only we had a diagnosis earlier ( which a specialised PD would have spotted!), we would have been able to deal with his digestive and oral senstivity issues earlier. it was like the twilight zone for us - where docs kept insisting he was fine, and one very highly recommended specialist told us to give him enemas DAILY. Thank God we had the sense not to listen to that. We only managed to sort out treatment when we found a PD who dealt with kids like my son.So that would be useful
1. is location of the therapy important in your consideration of signing up your child at that centre? or are you willing to travel to anywhere that has good affordable therapy?
Location is important for us. My son can get super cranky if we mess up the routine,especially if he needs a nap or a meal, so accessibility is important. I have been to therapy sessions before which were a total waste of time as he was just too tired to focus.
2. do you find upper thomson/ yio chu kang road far?
Depends. The area is central, but somewhere with MRT is best, for us at least! We don't have to wait as long for trains compared to buses, and we don't have to navigate lots of steps.
3. would you be willing to sign up at a place that might be abit harder to get to but has good outdoor facilities for your child like a nice park and playground for them to have lessons at and play with their peers?
No, because chances are, we will get there super late everyday, and so won't be able to utilise the facilities fully.
4. how do you usually get to the therapy centre? do you drive/ take public transport/ try to plan it around your work schedule or have a caregiver drop and pick them up?
Its a mix of everything for us. Sometimes we get a lift in a car from a family member to therapy, just to make it on time, but we take the bus home as my son enjoys the journey and its a way for him to slowly unwind after a long day. We work it around my schedule as I attend all his sessions with him.
If I can just add one more thing? I think what I would really appreciate as a parent is a full-service centre, which offers tie ups with a PD who deals with special needs kids as well as a nutritionist.before we had my son diagnosed, he had major issues with food allergies, and sever constipation.If only we had a diagnosis earlier ( which a specialised PD would have spotted!), we would have been able to deal with his digestive and oral senstivity issues earlier. it was like the twilight zone for us - where docs kept insisting he was fine, and one very highly recommended specialist told us to give him enemas DAILY. Thank God we had the sense not to listen to that. We only managed to sort out treatment when we found a PD who dealt with kids like my son.So that would be useful
letstalkautism
Member
hi mummies!
thanks so much for your advice
so many things to consider. we are trying to keep cost low to make therapy more affordable because i know how expensive it can be! hopefully we can tie up with some STs and PDs. i think thats a great idea!
thanks so much for your advice
Dear mummies,
My 20mth son has been diagnosed with GDD. KKH doc say he's too young to be assessed for autism but I find he probably is because he has poor eye contact, no words yet, loves to spin and make things wobble.
I currently waiting to attend the Step Up program at KKH but understand the wait list to enter into govt subsidised EPIC centre is very long. While waiting, I wanted to start him on some private therapy.
I've brought my son to Kits4kits for screening and they recommended 1hr OT twice a wk as a start as his joint attention quite bad. When he's better then put him into group therapy. It's $110 p/hr for OT and group is $350-$550 per mth for 3hr class. I can apply for subsidy from CEL for the class but not the 1:1 OT.
Another centre is Divinity which is quite similiar to Kits4kids I think.
I also called Wee Care and ABC centre. Their approach is ABA. Fees is abt $60 p/hr but seems like it's more intensive e.g. 2hr per session 3-5 times a wk so work out to be v expensive per mth.
I'm at a loss now. I'm not working so need to consider the cost. Thinking of going back to work to bring in more income but i duno how to manage the logistics e.g. the shuffling to-n-fro centre. How you guys managed? Is ABA more effective than OT/ST? Maybe it's more intensive that makes it more effective? For $110, he can do 2hrs of ABA instead of 1hr of OT. Also Wee care provide home-based therapy so I dun need to travel. I live in AMK so Kits4kids(AMK) and Divinity(Bishan) are nearer. Anyone has experience with these centres that I mentioned?
My 20mth son has been diagnosed with GDD. KKH doc say he's too young to be assessed for autism but I find he probably is because he has poor eye contact, no words yet, loves to spin and make things wobble.
I currently waiting to attend the Step Up program at KKH but understand the wait list to enter into govt subsidised EPIC centre is very long. While waiting, I wanted to start him on some private therapy.
I've brought my son to Kits4kits for screening and they recommended 1hr OT twice a wk as a start as his joint attention quite bad. When he's better then put him into group therapy. It's $110 p/hr for OT and group is $350-$550 per mth for 3hr class. I can apply for subsidy from CEL for the class but not the 1:1 OT.
Another centre is Divinity which is quite similiar to Kits4kids I think.
I also called Wee Care and ABC centre. Their approach is ABA. Fees is abt $60 p/hr but seems like it's more intensive e.g. 2hr per session 3-5 times a wk so work out to be v expensive per mth.
I'm at a loss now. I'm not working so need to consider the cost. Thinking of going back to work to bring in more income but i duno how to manage the logistics e.g. the shuffling to-n-fro centre. How you guys managed? Is ABA more effective than OT/ST? Maybe it's more intensive that makes it more effective? For $110, he can do 2hrs of ABA instead of 1hr of OT. Also Wee care provide home-based therapy so I dun need to travel. I live in AMK so Kits4kids(AMK) and Divinity(Bishan) are nearer. Anyone has experience with these centres that I mentioned?
scrumpee01
Member
imrouge
If you suspect that your son has autism and not just GDD, I suggest you inform KKH to note that down in your son's report so that when applying for EIPIC, you can apply to centres that specialises in Autism like Eden's Children centre or ARC. If not, these two centres will not accept your son.
I was in the same situation as you previously, my son was initially diagnosed as GDD but eventually ASD. Because of that, I couldn't apply to autism specialised centres. Right now, I have to rejoin the queue. I read from many mummies that Eden's Children centre and ARC, especially ARC is very good and their children really improved alot. Another advantage is these two centres have some form of affiliation with Pathlight, so next time, if your child cannot go to mainstream, he can still try for Pathlight.
I don't have experience with the other centres that you mentioned, so can't advise you.
If you suspect that your son has autism and not just GDD, I suggest you inform KKH to note that down in your son's report so that when applying for EIPIC, you can apply to centres that specialises in Autism like Eden's Children centre or ARC. If not, these two centres will not accept your son.
I was in the same situation as you previously, my son was initially diagnosed as GDD but eventually ASD. Because of that, I couldn't apply to autism specialised centres. Right now, I have to rejoin the queue. I read from many mummies that Eden's Children centre and ARC, especially ARC is very good and their children really improved alot. Another advantage is these two centres have some form of affiliation with Pathlight, so next time, if your child cannot go to mainstream, he can still try for Pathlight.
I don't have experience with the other centres that you mentioned, so can't advise you.
singsing76
Member
HI scrumpee,
I just send you a PM... could you pls take a look?
thankyou.
I just send you a PM... could you pls take a look?
thankyou.
Hi Af7680,
I went thru the same anxiety as you for my elder son who is coming to 4yr. The terrible two stage was a nightmare and that was when I started reading up on what is autism about. I thought he display some signs of autism. He likes to run in circles, likes things that are round, likes things that spin e.g. windmill, car wheels, fussy eater, very resistance to try new food, rather rigid in certain things e.g. insist we walk the same route from cc to bus-stop. He needs a lot of attention so I was busy spending time with him and left my baby to play and sleep by himself and I thought he's such a good baby compared to my elder one who likes to cry and throw tantrums. But turn out my little one is having a problem. He did MRI brain scan, heart scan and blood tests and all turn out normal. Even now at the back of my mind, maybe my elder son really has a problem, maybe not autism but some other behaviour issues.
I went thru the same anxiety as you for my elder son who is coming to 4yr. The terrible two stage was a nightmare and that was when I started reading up on what is autism about. I thought he display some signs of autism. He likes to run in circles, likes things that are round, likes things that spin e.g. windmill, car wheels, fussy eater, very resistance to try new food, rather rigid in certain things e.g. insist we walk the same route from cc to bus-stop. He needs a lot of attention so I was busy spending time with him and left my baby to play and sleep by himself and I thought he's such a good baby compared to my elder one who likes to cry and throw tantrums. But turn out my little one is having a problem. He did MRI brain scan, heart scan and blood tests and all turn out normal. Even now at the back of my mind, maybe my elder son really has a problem, maybe not autism but some other behaviour issues.
singsing76
Member
Hi imrouge
Thank you for sharing.. Your message gives me different perspective... But for my boy ... Speech delay , ridigity , sensory issue ,, as a whole i feel he is different from other typical kid .. I really hope he is not but no one knows for sure yet ... Btw how can MRI brain scan , blood test , and heart scan arranged ?normally Will there be different results for asd kids even though your son's test result was ok?
Thank you for sharing.. Your message gives me different perspective... But for my boy ... Speech delay , ridigity , sensory issue ,, as a whole i feel he is different from other typical kid .. I really hope he is not but no one knows for sure yet ... Btw how can MRI brain scan , blood test , and heart scan arranged ?normally Will there be different results for asd kids even though your son's test result was ok?
scrumpee01
Member
AF,
I didn't get your pm. U want to send again ?
I didn't get your pm. U want to send again ?
scrumpee01
Member
Imrouge
My boy was also very quiet when he was a baby, play buy himself after milk, my frens were commenting that he was an easy bb. But turn out that he has a prob.
My boy was also very quiet when he was a baby, play buy himself after milk, my frens were commenting that he was an easy bb. But turn out that he has a prob.
From: http://www.singaporeartscienceprize.edu.sg/main/index.php/groups/29-kid-do-stuff/166-play-therapy-child
Helping a Child Through Play Therapy
By JANE FRAMINGHAM, PH.D.
Adults often think of child’s play as mere fun and games, or a way to fill time. Actually, imaginative and creative play assists a child’s cognitive growth and emotional adjustment. Through play, a child develops self-confidence, a positive self-image and learns to express feelings, make decisions and cope with real-life situations. As such, play can be therapeutic, helping a child deal with and overcome problems that inhibit his normal development.
How does play therapy work?
Play therapy offers a child a safe place to play out-rather than talk out-his thoughts, feelings and problems. The therapist chooses toys that encourage “fantasy play,” such as clay, sand, water, drawing materials and puppets, as well as toys that enable a child to act out real-life scenarios. The therapist builds a warm and supportive relationship with the child, thereby encouraging the child to open up through the symbolic language of play.
During a therapy session, few limits are set and the child is given complete freedom to control his play and actions. In such a protective, yet empowering environment, the child generally leads the therapist to the source of his emotional disturbance through his activity and behavior. The therapist uses developmentally appropriate techniques to help the child let go of negative or restricting feelings and develop coping mechanisms to use in real life.
Who can benefit from play therapy?
All children go through stages or an occasional emotional “crisis.” But some children have serious problems, often caused by:
Neglect
Family violence
Divorce, separation or other changes in a family situation
Severe burns or disfigurement
Chronic illness
Deafness or other physical challenges
Grief
Hospitalization
Learning disabilities or other mental challenges
Often, a child needing help displays the following traits or behaviors:
Poor academic performance
Poor relationship with peers or siblings
Passivity, withdrawal
Bedwetting after toilet training
Reading problems
Social immaturity
Speech difficulties
Refusal to speak
Preoccupation with sex
Excessive worrying, anger, sadness or anxietyPhobias
Aggressive behavior or acting out
Knowing if a child needs professional help is not always easy. Ask your family physician or a mental health professional for guidance.
Session one and beyond
During the first session, the therapist describes the treatment process, parental involvement, treatment termination and cost. Confidentially is reviewed, and parents must sign a consent to treat before therapy can begin.
The therapist talks with the parents to learn more about the problem-how long it has been present, how they have tried to deal with it, and how it affects the child’s life and family members. Then, the child is introduced to the therapist, the playroom and the therapeutic process. Usually, a child will see the play therapist two to three times a week. The length of treatment varies.
The child’s level of functioning, during the session and at home, will worsen and improve over the course of therapy. Once the child has worked through his problem and has reached a state of emotional health and a level of functioning that is appropriate for his age and stage of development, he is ready to end treatment.
<font color="0077aa">I'm currently pursuing a course in Therapeutic Play and looking for case studies.
As this is highly confidential, you may want to drop me a PM should you know of any children that needs help, but cannot afford professional fee.
Referral from parents / guardians / teachers are welcome.</font>
Helping a Child Through Play Therapy
By JANE FRAMINGHAM, PH.D.
Adults often think of child’s play as mere fun and games, or a way to fill time. Actually, imaginative and creative play assists a child’s cognitive growth and emotional adjustment. Through play, a child develops self-confidence, a positive self-image and learns to express feelings, make decisions and cope with real-life situations. As such, play can be therapeutic, helping a child deal with and overcome problems that inhibit his normal development.
How does play therapy work?
Play therapy offers a child a safe place to play out-rather than talk out-his thoughts, feelings and problems. The therapist chooses toys that encourage “fantasy play,” such as clay, sand, water, drawing materials and puppets, as well as toys that enable a child to act out real-life scenarios. The therapist builds a warm and supportive relationship with the child, thereby encouraging the child to open up through the symbolic language of play.
During a therapy session, few limits are set and the child is given complete freedom to control his play and actions. In such a protective, yet empowering environment, the child generally leads the therapist to the source of his emotional disturbance through his activity and behavior. The therapist uses developmentally appropriate techniques to help the child let go of negative or restricting feelings and develop coping mechanisms to use in real life.
Who can benefit from play therapy?
All children go through stages or an occasional emotional “crisis.” But some children have serious problems, often caused by:
Neglect
Family violence
Divorce, separation or other changes in a family situation
Severe burns or disfigurement
Chronic illness
Deafness or other physical challenges
Grief
Hospitalization
Learning disabilities or other mental challenges
Often, a child needing help displays the following traits or behaviors:
Poor academic performance
Poor relationship with peers or siblings
Passivity, withdrawal
Bedwetting after toilet training
Reading problems
Social immaturity
Speech difficulties
Refusal to speak
Preoccupation with sex
Excessive worrying, anger, sadness or anxietyPhobias
Aggressive behavior or acting out
Knowing if a child needs professional help is not always easy. Ask your family physician or a mental health professional for guidance.
Session one and beyond
During the first session, the therapist describes the treatment process, parental involvement, treatment termination and cost. Confidentially is reviewed, and parents must sign a consent to treat before therapy can begin.
The therapist talks with the parents to learn more about the problem-how long it has been present, how they have tried to deal with it, and how it affects the child’s life and family members. Then, the child is introduced to the therapist, the playroom and the therapeutic process. Usually, a child will see the play therapist two to three times a week. The length of treatment varies.
The child’s level of functioning, during the session and at home, will worsen and improve over the course of therapy. Once the child has worked through his problem and has reached a state of emotional health and a level of functioning that is appropriate for his age and stage of development, he is ready to end treatment.
<font color="0077aa">I'm currently pursuing a course in Therapeutic Play and looking for case studies.
As this is highly confidential, you may want to drop me a PM should you know of any children that needs help, but cannot afford professional fee.
Referral from parents / guardians / teachers are welcome.</font>
Hi Af7680,
The scans and tests were recommended by the KKH doc on our 1st visit. The purpose is to find out why he is delayed. The blood tests are mainly to check on his muscle enzyme and thyroid cos he has a bit of low muscle tone and started walking 2 weeks ago only. Heart scan because he has heart murmur which is quite common but they wan to be sure it's not any heart problem that's causing his delay. Btw, he oso has high palate and sunken chest. We were referred to see neurologist also but seems like there is no way to check for autism through these tests. Autism is a clinical diagnosis not medical. Have to wait till 2.5-3yrs to do assessment.
The scans and tests were recommended by the KKH doc on our 1st visit. The purpose is to find out why he is delayed. The blood tests are mainly to check on his muscle enzyme and thyroid cos he has a bit of low muscle tone and started walking 2 weeks ago only. Heart scan because he has heart murmur which is quite common but they wan to be sure it's not any heart problem that's causing his delay. Btw, he oso has high palate and sunken chest. We were referred to see neurologist also but seems like there is no way to check for autism through these tests. Autism is a clinical diagnosis not medical. Have to wait till 2.5-3yrs to do assessment.
singsing76
Member
Hi Scrumpee
Sent just now again
Hi imrouge
Thank you for sharing details ..
Sent just now again
Hi imrouge
Thank you for sharing details ..
Hi MaY MaY & JiaHui,
I'm so happy that my boy had make tremendous improvement after going to few sessions of speech therapy. He now have 50 words instead of 1 word "car" for the last 2 months.
He even can sit down for more than 20 mins to finish puzzle, coloring and games. The speech therapist is happy and surprise on his improvement. But yesterday night he throw tantrums longer than usual as he stomached and bloated. Even after the pain stopped, he still very cranky thereafter. I nearly lost my temper but luckily I managed to control myself as I know he is not on purpose.
Keep it up all mothers here, Jia You!
I'm so happy that my boy had make tremendous improvement after going to few sessions of speech therapy. He now have 50 words instead of 1 word "car" for the last 2 months.
He even can sit down for more than 20 mins to finish puzzle, coloring and games. The speech therapist is happy and surprise on his improvement. But yesterday night he throw tantrums longer than usual as he stomached and bloated. Even after the pain stopped, he still very cranky thereafter. I nearly lost my temper but luckily I managed to control myself as I know he is not on purpose.
Keep it up all mothers here, Jia You!
Hi Hoon,
Good to hear that, we should keep trying different method to make it work.
My daughter now attending ARC and childcare, she is enjoying both places. And always behave very good and listen to instruction from teachers. Feel really glad.
I am pregnant with 2nd child, and i think this is just the right time to have 2nd one.
Good luck to mummies.
Good to hear that, we should keep trying different method to make it work.
My daughter now attending ARC and childcare, she is enjoying both places. And always behave very good and listen to instruction from teachers. Feel really glad.
I am pregnant with 2nd child, and i think this is just the right time to have 2nd one.
Good luck to mummies.
scrumpee01
Member
Af, I still did not get your private message. Strange.
I will PM u and you can reply me instead.
I will PM u and you can reply me instead.
singsing76
Member
All mummies
I have 2.5yr old boy who we suspect autistic and 4 month old daughter.
Today i m supposed to bring her for vaccination but not going - reason being i m scared of some news/article that vaccination might link to autism.. Any mummies here heard about that ?
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/baby/question-vaccinations
Another article that someone posted on line -
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 1:45 am:
Hi,
Something to share which i found the reasoning really makes us see why vaccination is not working now. Below are some extracts from the book.
Childhood asthma, eczema, diabetes, allergies, hay fever, digestive disorders, ADHD and autistic spectrum disorders have all gained epidemic proportions! And though all these health problems appear to be different, they have one thing in common - a compromised immune system. A compromised immune system is not going to react to environmental insults in the normal way! Vaccination is a huge insult to the immune system. The manufacturers of vaccines produce them for children with normal immune systems which will react to these vaccines in a predictable way. However, in our modern society with our modern way of life, we are rapidly moving to a situation where a growing proportion of children do not have a normal immune system and will not provide an expected reaction to the vaccine.
In some of these children vaccination, putting an enormous strain on an already compromised immune system, becomes that "last straw which breaks the camel's back" and brings on the beginning of autism, asthma, eczema, diabete, etc. In other children, whose immune system is compromised to a lesser degree, vaccination will not start the disorder, but it will deepen the damage and move the child closer to it. However if the child's immune system is severely compromised, then the child will get ill even if vaccinations are completely avoided. It is the state of the child's immune system that appears to be the decisive factor, not the vaccines.
So while MMR and other vaccines may not be the direct cause of autism, in immune-compromised children they can do a lot of harm and in some children may well provide the trigger which starts the disorder.
Following all the scandals around vaccinations it is no surprise that a lot of people around the world believe that we should abandon vaccinations altogether. What these people forget is that before the vaccination era it was quite normal for every family to lose one,two, three and sometimes even more children to childhood infections. This is the natural selection, which Mother Nature has imposed on all living creatures on Earth. No animals would have all of its young survive. In fact in many species most babies in the litter die, with only the strongest surviving. This law of selection ensures that the planet is populated by the best and the fittest in each species. In our modern world we humans are not prepared to obey this law. No mother would allow her child to perish, when there are ways to let the child live, despite the fact the child may not be the best and the fittest she can produce. Childhood infections are one of the tools of natural selection. Children who survive them come out healthier with stronger immune systems, weak children are not supposed to survive them. Vaccinations are one of those ways we humans have invented to allow our weak children to survive. So we cannot abandon vaccinations altogether unless we are prepared to obey the laws of Nature.
Vaccinations which saved the lives of million of children world-wide in the last century, are becoming dangerous thanks to changes in our lifestyles. The number of immune compromised children in developed countries is enormous and growing everyday. It is time for the medical profession and governments to review their attitude to vaccinations. The rule to vaccinate everyone has to change!
An infant with eczema, asthma, digestive problems or any other disorder which would indicate compromised gut flora and immunity should be a red flag not to vaccinate.
Younger siblings of autistic children, children with severe eczema, asthma, allergies, ADHD, epilepsy and insulin dependent diabetes should not be vaccinated.
At a later stage these children can be retested, and in those cases where the child does not have immune deficiencies, vaccination with single vaccines only maybe considered. And should be spaced at least 6 weeks apart.
Standard vaccination protocol with single vaccines only. This would apply to healthy infants who have healthy parents and whose test show normal immune development.
I have 2.5yr old boy who we suspect autistic and 4 month old daughter.
Today i m supposed to bring her for vaccination but not going - reason being i m scared of some news/article that vaccination might link to autism.. Any mummies here heard about that ?
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/baby/question-vaccinations
Another article that someone posted on line -
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 1:45 am:
Hi,
Something to share which i found the reasoning really makes us see why vaccination is not working now. Below are some extracts from the book.
Childhood asthma, eczema, diabetes, allergies, hay fever, digestive disorders, ADHD and autistic spectrum disorders have all gained epidemic proportions! And though all these health problems appear to be different, they have one thing in common - a compromised immune system. A compromised immune system is not going to react to environmental insults in the normal way! Vaccination is a huge insult to the immune system. The manufacturers of vaccines produce them for children with normal immune systems which will react to these vaccines in a predictable way. However, in our modern society with our modern way of life, we are rapidly moving to a situation where a growing proportion of children do not have a normal immune system and will not provide an expected reaction to the vaccine.
In some of these children vaccination, putting an enormous strain on an already compromised immune system, becomes that "last straw which breaks the camel's back" and brings on the beginning of autism, asthma, eczema, diabete, etc. In other children, whose immune system is compromised to a lesser degree, vaccination will not start the disorder, but it will deepen the damage and move the child closer to it. However if the child's immune system is severely compromised, then the child will get ill even if vaccinations are completely avoided. It is the state of the child's immune system that appears to be the decisive factor, not the vaccines.
So while MMR and other vaccines may not be the direct cause of autism, in immune-compromised children they can do a lot of harm and in some children may well provide the trigger which starts the disorder.
Following all the scandals around vaccinations it is no surprise that a lot of people around the world believe that we should abandon vaccinations altogether. What these people forget is that before the vaccination era it was quite normal for every family to lose one,two, three and sometimes even more children to childhood infections. This is the natural selection, which Mother Nature has imposed on all living creatures on Earth. No animals would have all of its young survive. In fact in many species most babies in the litter die, with only the strongest surviving. This law of selection ensures that the planet is populated by the best and the fittest in each species. In our modern world we humans are not prepared to obey this law. No mother would allow her child to perish, when there are ways to let the child live, despite the fact the child may not be the best and the fittest she can produce. Childhood infections are one of the tools of natural selection. Children who survive them come out healthier with stronger immune systems, weak children are not supposed to survive them. Vaccinations are one of those ways we humans have invented to allow our weak children to survive. So we cannot abandon vaccinations altogether unless we are prepared to obey the laws of Nature.
Vaccinations which saved the lives of million of children world-wide in the last century, are becoming dangerous thanks to changes in our lifestyles. The number of immune compromised children in developed countries is enormous and growing everyday. It is time for the medical profession and governments to review their attitude to vaccinations. The rule to vaccinate everyone has to change!
An infant with eczema, asthma, digestive problems or any other disorder which would indicate compromised gut flora and immunity should be a red flag not to vaccinate.
Younger siblings of autistic children, children with severe eczema, asthma, allergies, ADHD, epilepsy and insulin dependent diabetes should not be vaccinated.
At a later stage these children can be retested, and in those cases where the child does not have immune deficiencies, vaccination with single vaccines only maybe considered. And should be spaced at least 6 weeks apart.
Standard vaccination protocol with single vaccines only. This would apply to healthy infants who have healthy parents and whose test show normal immune development.
Congrats MaY MaY! Hope you have a smooth pregnancy and delivery
Af7680, i am unsure upon reading the article which advocates no vaccination. My elder son who's going through EIPIC therapy had all the jabs, including pneumococcal, MMR and rotavirus vaccine. I thought the MMR did the damage so when my younger son was born, i suggested to his pd to delay his MMR jab till after 2yo. Unfortunately, my younger son inherited my defective eczema gene and was diagnosed with severe eczema when he was 2 weeks old. He's now 16 months old, had all the jabs except the MMR jab and has shown no visible signs of developmental delay. His eczema condition appeared to be well managed.
If anything, i strongly believe genes play a huge factor. Me, my hb and my FIL are all late bloomers, late in many developmental aspects especially on the talking front but as adults we learn how to manage our limitations.
Af7680, i am unsure upon reading the article which advocates no vaccination. My elder son who's going through EIPIC therapy had all the jabs, including pneumococcal, MMR and rotavirus vaccine. I thought the MMR did the damage so when my younger son was born, i suggested to his pd to delay his MMR jab till after 2yo. Unfortunately, my younger son inherited my defective eczema gene and was diagnosed with severe eczema when he was 2 weeks old. He's now 16 months old, had all the jabs except the MMR jab and has shown no visible signs of developmental delay. His eczema condition appeared to be well managed.
If anything, i strongly believe genes play a huge factor. Me, my hb and my FIL are all late bloomers, late in many developmental aspects especially on the talking front but as adults we learn how to manage our limitations.
helloagain
Member
Srumpee - didn't know u r here and the existence of this thread. No wonder the other thread seem deserted. Lots of read up here to do. I'm Sch scouting again
Anyone has feedback on Zee schoolhouse? Fees seem v high.. Any cheaper alternative for integrated preschool?
Any gd st also to recommend? Any feedback for "communication for life"?
Anyone has feedback on Zee schoolhouse? Fees seem v high.. Any cheaper alternative for integrated preschool?
Any gd st also to recommend? Any feedback for "communication for life"?
tessaannwong
New Member
Hi everyone, I'm Tessa Wong currently a year 2 student from LASALLE College of the Arts. My team and I have organised a half-day Art Therapy Workshop titled HEART, for caregivers of individuals with autism as well as educators in special needs schools. For more information about this workshop please click on the link below.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8221/8446288435_c526c80f28_k.jpg
Thank you very much.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8221/8446288435_c526c80f28_k.jpg
Thank you very much.
Hi All, My son just started his private eipic at kits4kids, although he just went for school for 5 days, i really found that he is improving. Compare to those eipic centre, i think that kits4kids is really a good one. My son was being withdraw from his pcf k1 this year as he totally can fit himself into the class, he will cry, walk around and touch this touch that. He can't sit still in his class and the teacher there are not well trained for asd , and also there is only one teacher to 20 students, no choice i withdraw him from the school , and look for a private one.. To my surprise the kits4kids actually have full day lesson for my son which is from 9am to 4pm daily, where mainstream lesson will be taught to my son. And for one things special is their 9-4pm dun consist of any nap time and therefore my son could really learn a lot from there... this really help me alot... whereas previously when my son is at home during the day, there is no one to teach him as i'm a working mother but now things are relly different for me.... =)
helloagain
Member
Vivian - which branch is ur son attending n mind sharing how much you are paying? Thanks