2017 IVF mummies

daylesford said:
Princessleopard,
Sorry to hear all the stress u are going through.
I had been combating multiple spotting and bleeding episodes since dpt8 and had been hospitalized for bleeding during wk7.

My gynea saw that i had hematoma which was why i was spotting & bleeding spontaneously
Did ur dr scanned to make sure that ur uterine cavity is cleared from any of these clots ?
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Hi, thanks for your concern!

At first, I am with KKH. Seen 8 different doctors (routine checks and 24 hours clinic), but all of them only check baby size and heartbeat when I informed them of spottings. Then, I switched to private gynae. She scan very thoroughly, showing me every parts of my baby, then outside of the waterbag as well for blood clots. She spotted a small blood clot, but she said it is very small and need not to be alarm. She checked my cervical opening internally and externally. Both are closed with good measurement. She said a part of my external cervical skin is a bit thin, so she deduce my spottings could be caused by either the blood clot or irritation of the thin cervical skin. She put me on utrogestan now till my next visit, hoping the spotting doesnt return.

How are you now? resting at home?
 


princessleopard said:
Hi, thanks for your concern!

At first, I am with KKH. Seen 8 different doctors (routine checks and 24 hours clinic), but all of them only check baby size and heartbeat when I informed them of spottings. Then, I switched to private gynae. She scan very thoroughly, showing me every parts of my baby, then outside of the waterbag as well for blood clots. She spotted a small blood clot, but she said it is very small and need not to be alarm. She checked my cervical opening internally and externally. Both are closed with good measurement. She said a part of my external cervical skin is a bit thin, so she deduce my spottings could be caused by either the blood clot or irritation of the thin cervical skin. She put me on utrogestan now till my next visit, hoping the spotting doesnt return.

How are you now? resting at home?
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Oh dear, Kkh drs must have made u stressed up.

Yes. My gynea did the same checks too. But he did not check my cervix as it requires v-scans and he did not want to aggravate my condition but once i was diagnosed with hematoma, the bleeding should be the clot discharging from the body.

After 6weeks of endless spottings n bleeding episodes, i was cleared for the past week and yesterday scan revealed that the hematoma was finally absorbed by the body. Hope i will be out of the woods soon ... but i will still be very careful cos ivf pregnancies are so precious.
 
Hi everyone! i just got my hcg beta at 126. today is 12dp5dt, im expriencing mild cramps and obvious lower backaches. no spotting. are the cramps and aches normal cos i feels AF kind of familiar. the cramps on 12dpo to 15dpo were really bad cramps, almost thought gone case.
 
Gracewithus said:
Hi everyone! i just got my hcg beta at 126. today is 12dp5dt, im expriencing mild cramps and obvious lower backaches. no spotting. are the cramps and aches normal cos i feels AF kind of familiar. the cramps on 12dpo to 15dpo were really bad cramps, almost thought gone case.
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It could still b implantation cramps now n uterus expanding as weeks pass.. as Long no spotting or sharp pain shd b fine ..try to rest more n relax
 
daylesford said:
Oh dear, Kkh drs must have made u stressed up.

Yes. My gynea did the same checks too. But he did not check my cervix as it requires v-scans and he did not want to aggravate my condition but once i was diagnosed with hematoma, the bleeding should be the clot discharging from the body.

After 6weeks of endless spottings n bleeding episodes, i was cleared for the past week and yesterday scan revealed that the hematoma was finally absorbed by the body. Hope i will be out of the woods soon ... but i will still be very careful cos ivf pregnancies are so precious.
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Yeah, though trying to stay positive yet cant help being paranoid too. So scared of the spottings as I have miscarriages before.

Glad to know that things are getting better. Rest well!! Is there any treatment or medication given for the hematoma? Or just wait for it to be absorbed by itself?
 
Hi everyone, i jus tested positive with a beta 288. Is it too low? Schedule for first scan next week. Am worried cos its my first time.
 
princessleopard said:
Yeah, though trying to stay positive yet cant help being paranoid too. So scared of the spottings as I have miscarriages before.

Glad to know that things are getting better. Rest well!! Is there any treatment or medication given for the hematoma? Or just wait for it to be absorbed by itself?
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Princess leopard,
No specific treatment for apart from increasing my progestrone support to max dose and also loads of bed rest as body will either discharge the clot as spotting or bleeding or body will self absorb the clot.my Gynea just wanted to be sure that the clot don't expand ...

Ur previous mc was at v early pregnant stage ? Usually once we r pass trim 1, the chances of mc decreases too. So stay positive ya !
 
daylesford said:
Princess leopard,
No specific treatment for apart from increasing my progestrone support to max dose and also loads of bed rest as body will either discharge the clot as spotting or bleeding or body will self absorb the clot.my Gynea just wanted to be sure that the clot don't expand ...

Ur previous mc was at v early pregnant stage ? Usually once we r pass trim 1, the chances of mc decreases too. So stay positive ya !
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HI,

I see. My progesterone support is on max dose since the spotting started too.

Yes, both are within first trimester. Ok, will stay positive!! Thanks :)
 
daylesford said:
Princess leopard,
No specific treatment for apart from increasing my progestrone support to max dose and also loads of bed rest as body will either discharge the clot as spotting or bleeding or body will self absorb the clot.my Gynea just wanted to be sure that the clot don't expand ...

Ur previous mc was at v early pregnant stage ? Usually once we r pass trim 1, the chances of mc decreases too. So stay positive ya !
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Hi daylesford and princess leopard,
On the topic of spotting which I'm experiencing, when you said maximum dosage of prog support, how much are you referring to?
 
kk82 said:
Hi daylesford and princess leopard,
On the topic of spotting which I'm experiencing, when you said maximum dosage of prog support, how much are you referring to?
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Hi kk82,

According KKH, they gave me duphaston 10mg to be taken 3 times a day. They said I am already on max dose, though spotting still occurs, they cannot increase anymore. At most they can give a progesterone jab. Then when I still have spotting during the start of trimester 2, they change to Utrogestan 100mg, 2 pill a day.

But I read somewhere in the forum that ladies from NUH actually get more support (different types of medications) than KKH.
 
princessleopard said:
Hi kk82,

According KKH, they gave me duphaston 10mg to be taken 3 times a day. They said I am already on max dose, though spotting still occurs, they cannot increase anymore. At most they can give a progesterone jab. Then when I still have spotting during the start of trimester 2, they change to Utrogestan 100mg, 2 pill a day.

But I read somewhere in the forum that ladies from NUH actually get more support (different types of medications) than KKH.
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Thanks sister. My IVF cum gynae is private. Additionally to duphaston and utrogestran, I have twice weekly Jab as well (wed n sat). Just last night, the brown stains came back (visible only on finger when inserting utrogestran) and I rushed to take jab this morning. Quite worrisome as it seem to be a standard reoccurrence every 3-4 days. Are you doing bed rest and does it help? Am I right that if it's not fresh blood, there's no cause for concern? I did not repeat ultrasound scan today.
Have been on HL for several weeks since my FET. What a tough journey but the outcome is worth it.
 
kk82 said:
Thanks sister. My IVF cum gynae is private. Additionally to duphaston and utrogestran, I have twice weekly Jab as well (wed n sat). Just last night, the brown stains came back (visible only on finger when inserting utrogestran) and I rushed to take jab this morning. Quite worrisome as it seem to be a standard reoccurrence every 3-4 days. Are you doing bed rest and does it help? Am I right that if it's not fresh blood, there's no cause for concern? I did not repeat ultrasound scan today.
Have been on HL for several weeks since my FET. What a tough journey but the outcome is worth it.
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I can understand your concern. While trying our best to stay positive, yet cannot help the worrying. Which week are you now?

I am on bed rest after ET till the blood test. I have 2 MCs before, so TCM advise me to bed rest as IVF babies are more precious. At first, thought to bed rest for first 2 months, but spotting start to occurs, so I am switching between 90% bed rest and semi bed rest modes. My spottings are not standard reoccurrence, first started on week 5, then week 9. Both lasted about 5 days. Week 9 one was shocking as its fresh blood. When I thought I entered 2nd trimester which is much stable, spottings started right at week 14. Each lasted 3days, I have 3 spottings in week 14. I went to clinic every 3 days. That week was a nightmare. According to gynae, usually brown spotting are not so much of a concern. My last 2 spottings are really dark brown near black type.

Did your gynae try to find the cause of spotting? For me, no investigation done at KKH. Then I switch to private and gynae spotted a small blood clot, said that may be the cause.
 
princessleopard said:
I can understand your concern. While trying our best to stay positive, yet cannot help the worrying. Which week are you now?

I am on bed rest after ET till the blood test. I have 2 MCs before, so TCM advise me to bed rest as IVF babies are more precious. At first, thought to bed rest for first 2 months, but spotting start to occurs, so I am switching between 90% bed rest and semi bed rest modes. My spottings are not standard reoccurrence, first started on week 5, then week 9. Both lasted about 5 days. Week 9 one was shocking as its fresh blood. When I thought I entered 2nd trimester which is much stable, spottings started right at week 14. Each lasted 3days, I have 3 spottings in week 14. I went to clinic every 3 days. That week was a nightmare. According to gynae, usually brown spotting are not so much of a concern. My last 2 spottings are really dark brown near black type.

Did your gynae try to find the cause of spotting? For me, no investigation done at KKH. Then I switch to private and gynae spotted a small blood clot, said that may be the cause.
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I just started week 7, only scanned once at 5w6d and heard heartbeat. Next scan at week 8. Gynae did not try to find out the cause, so am just monitoring and hoping Jab continues to work. Perhaps bed rest impede circulation and caused clots instead. The fresh blood was put to a stop using progesterone Jab?
I just felt nausea and afraid I exert too much abdomen muscle with the puke action. really many things that made me worry about.
 
kk82 said:
I just started week 7, only scanned once at 5w6d and heard heartbeat. Next scan at week 8. Gynae did not try to find out the cause, so am just monitoring and hoping Jab continues to work. Perhaps bed rest impede circulation and caused clots instead. The fresh blood was put to a stop using progesterone Jab?
I just felt nausea and afraid I exert too much abdomen muscle with the puke action. really many things that made me worry about.
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I am not sure either, whether bed rest is good or not. I saw about 8 different doctors at KKH, they all have different thinking about bed rest. My private gynae say when spotting occurs, try to rest as much. Listen to my body, if I am not tired, can do some slow walk or exercise I used to do. If tired, just rest.

For me, I find the Utrogestan works better. I insert for a day, the next day spotting cleared.

You can ask gynae for anti-nausea pill. I have very bad nausea for the whole first trimester, only puke for a few times then. But my last spotting was actually caused by me puking. It happened in the middle of the night, I got up to pee. But the moment I stood up, I puke suddenly. Worse thing is I am on empty stomach, there is actually nothing to puke but cannot stop the motion. So the force was so hard that at one moment, when trying to puke, I felt a sharp pain in tummy and followed by a flow. I thought its urine because I wanted to pee, but after checking it was blood. Then I rushed to 24 hour clinic immediately.

Try watching funny variety shows or dramas. I know my mind will wander wild, so I watch funny shows to distract myself. Stay positive!!
 
princessleopard said:
I am not sure either, whether bed rest is good or not. I saw about 8 different doctors at KKH, they all have different thinking about bed rest. My private gynae say when spotting occurs, try to rest as much. Listen to my body, if I am not tired, can do some slow walk or exercise I used to do. If tired, just rest.

For me, I find the Utrogestan works better. I insert for a day, the next day spotting cleared.

You can ask gynae for anti-nausea pill. I have very bad nausea for the whole first trimester, only puke for a few times then. But my last spotting was actually caused by me puking. It happened in the middle of the night, I got up to pee. But the moment I stood up, I puke suddenly. Worse thing is I am on empty stomach, there is actually nothing to puke but cannot stop the motion. So the force was so hard that at one moment, when trying to puke, I felt a sharp pain in tummy and followed by a flow. I thought its urine because I wanted to pee, but after checking it was blood. Then I rushed to 24 hour clinic immediately.

Try watching funny variety shows or dramas. I know my mind will wander wild, so I watch funny shows to distract myself. Stay positive!!
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Ya must be careful
My gynae told me the puking and gagging will cause us to spot
 
ttc77 said:
Ya must be careful
My gynae told me the puking and gagging will cause us to spot
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Oh dear! I better ask gynae for anti nausea Med Tml. I have been doing that puking action very much often and every time I feel the muscles of my tummy stretch.
 
ttc77 said:
Just curious
When ur hcg is 2000, do u feel Moeen nauseous than the pregnancy where ur hcg is 185?
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Both pregnancies i had no MS. Just that this time with high beta i was bugged with v bad constipation. I needed to be on laxative to clear my bowels :( .... and i started feeling a little queasy last week.
 
kk82 said:
I just started week 7, only scanned once at 5w6d and heard heartbeat. Next scan at week 8. Gynae did not try to find out the cause, so am just monitoring and hoping Jab continues to work. Perhaps bed rest impede circulation and caused clots instead. The fresh blood was put to a stop using progesterone Jab?
I just felt nausea and afraid I exert too much abdomen muscle with the puke action. really many things that made me worry about.
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Kk82,
Once we spot or bleed, gyneas will advise to bed rest cos walking or even standing up will aggravate the condition and incase if its hematoma, bed resting will make help body absorb the blood clot else it will be a real worry if the clot expands.
 
princessleopard said:
I am not sure either, whether bed rest is good or not. I saw about 8 different doctors at KKH, they all have different thinking about bed rest. My private gynae say when spotting occurs, try to rest as much. Listen to my body, if I am not tired, can do some slow walk or exercise I used to do. If tired, just rest.

For me, I find the Utrogestan works better. I insert for a day, the next day spotting cleared.

You can ask gynae for anti-nausea pill. I have very bad nausea for the whole first trimester, only puke for a few times then. But my last spotting was actually caused by me puking. It happened in the middle of the night, I got up to pee. But the moment I stood up, I puke suddenly. Worse thing is I am on empty stomach, there is actually nothing to puke but cannot stop the motion. So the force was so hard that at one moment, when trying to puke, I felt a sharp pain in tummy and followed by a flow. I thought its urine because I wanted to pee, but after checking it was blood. Then I rushed to 24 hour clinic immediately.

Try watching funny variety shows or dramas. I know my mind will wander wild, so I watch funny shows to distract myself. Stay positive!!
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Princessleopard,
I am using utrogestan 3X a day and the residuals discharge just stinks ! Like stale progestrone :( ... i am counting down to end of trimester 1 where the supports will be tapered off.
 
daylesford said:
Princessleopard,
I am using utrogestan 3X a day and the residuals discharge just stinks ! Like stale progestrone :( ... i am counting down to end of trimester 1 where the supports will be tapered off.
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I can understand...I used Utrogestan 3x a day after ET for 2 weeks then. Now, though they switch back to Utrogestan for me, but I only need to put 1x a day. Maybe because its 2nd trimester? But still monitoring for any spotting.

JIAYOU!!
 
princessleopard said:
I see.. I did not know it before this. So it came as a shock for me then.
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This came as a shock to me too
These few days when I gagged n coughed v hard cos of nauseousness, I will see a bit of dark brown blood streak after I put my inserts on my fingers

So looks like it's true. But the gagging n coughing really v hard to control
I do it like few times a day cos of MS
 
daylesford said:
Kk82,
Once we spot or bleed, gyneas will advise to bed rest cos walking or even standing up will aggravate the condition and incase if its hematoma, bed resting will make help body absorb the blood clot else it will be a real worry if the clot expands.
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The body will absorb the blood clot ah? I didn't know
I always wonder where will the blood go cos the dr told me he did a scan n still see some blood
So I was expecting to bleed more
 
ttc77 said:
This came as a shock to me too
These few days when I gagged n coughed v hard cos of nauseousness, I will see a bit of dark brown blood streak after I put my inserts on my fingers

So looks like it's true. But the gagging n coughing really v hard to control
I do it like few times a day cos of MS
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Yeah very hard to control and sometimes no symptoms prior too. So I took the anti-nausea pill to control. Now the only moment I feel like gagging is when I brush my teeth. I have problem brushing since the pregnancy, especially brushing towards the back. Worried my teeth at the back will have problem in the months to come.
 
princessleopard said:
Yeah very hard to control and sometimes no symptoms prior too. So I took the anti-nausea pill to control. Now the only moment I feel like gagging is when I brush my teeth. I have problem brushing since the pregnancy, especially brushing towards the back. Worried my teeth at the back will have problem in the months to come.
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Brushing teeth is a problem to mi in day n night haha. Past few weeks i literally puke after my brushing of teeth in the morning. But puke water so still ok to mi. In the night is do nausea action
 
snow19 said:
Brushing teeth is a problem to mi in day n night haha. Past few weeks i literally puke after my brushing of teeth in the morning. But puke water so still ok to mi. In the night is do nausea action
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Really? I thought I am the weird one. Coz never anyone complain on this before haha
 
SOS!!

Hey All... i really dont know who to turn to... but I hope I could find someone here who care to share if your experience is similar to mine.

Here's a little background abt my IVF.

I did my FET transfer 1 blastocyst on 12 June 2017.
On my period calendar, expected 'period' due date is 14 June 2017.

Here's what I encounter..

the question is ... the dark red blood is my period??? Is my progesterone level not high enough? Or implantation? I am sooo worried now and i dont know what to think... i cried yesterday kept stressing myself about it. If its my period and my progesterone arent high enough, my lining will shed and what will happen to my embie????

12 June - 0dpt (Felt something inside my tummy at left side of near naval area)

13 June - 1dpt (No symptom except for being hungry)

14 June - 2dpt5dt (Wokeup at 420am, felt slightly crampy but diff type of cramp, intense cramp from 615-715am, pulling cramp one whole day, backache, constipated, 10am - 730pm wipe with brown stain)

15 June - 3dpt (only mild pulling, watery brown discharge at around 650pm, mild pain in left and right ovaries)

16 June - 4pt (cramps till thigh started ard 6pm, dark red spotting smell like crinone then pee again at 7pm, wipe and have same spotting)

17 June - 5pt (frequent dark red colored blood/stain when wipe)
 


Monalee said:
SOS!!

Hey All... i really dont know who to turn to... but I hope I could find someone here who care to share if your experience is similar to mine.

Here's a little background abt my IVF.

I did my FET transfer 1 blastocyst on 12 June 2017.
On my period calendar, expected 'period' due date is 14 June 2017.

Here's what I encounter..

the question is ... the dark red blood is my period??? Is my progesterone level not high enough? Or implantation? I am sooo worried now and i dont know what to think... i cried yesterday kept stressing myself about it. If its my period and my progesterone arent high enough, my lining will shed and what will happen to my embie????

12 June - 0dpt (Felt something inside my tummy at left side of near naval area)

13 June - 1dpt (No symptom except for being hungry)

14 June - 2dpt5dt (Wokeup at 420am, felt slightly crampy but diff type of cramp, intense cramp from 615-715am, pulling cramp one whole day, backache, constipated, 10am - 730pm wipe with brown stain)

15 June - 3dpt (only mild pulling, watery brown discharge at around 650pm, mild pain in left and right ovaries)

16 June - 4pt (cramps till thigh started ard 6pm, dark red spotting smell like crinone then pee again at 7pm, wipe and have same spotting)

17 June - 5pt (frequent dark red colored blood/stain when wipe)
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Dark red or brown could be old blood. As long as not fresh red. Continue the inserts on time and if still worried maybe call them on Monday or next working day? I had 3 full days of cramp and Af symptoms and bfp.
Now might be too early to test hpt.
 
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