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Jo (iijo)
New member Username: iijo
Post Number: 58 Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 3:38 pm: |
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Hi, Anyone use the infant care services at this branch? Am thinking of putting my baby there but would like to find out from mummies out there first. Agape has an island wide open house this week so dunno whether to register or not. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
New member Username: s_l
Post Number: 26 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 11:27 am: |
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Hi, I'm also keen to check out this centre. Any mummies with kids in there would like to share your experience? Currently my son is in another centre in that area but I find their hygiene a little dubious. I once caught them asking my son (ard 24 months old) to lie on the floor (where all the kids and adults walked on) to drink milk. And what is worse is that my son often come home with mosquitoes and insect bites. Once his arm was bitten by an unknown insect so badly that it got red, swollen and infected. The whole arm felt really hard and warm. Besides Agape, I am also considering other centre around Kallang/Mountbatten/Guillemard. Anyone feedbacks or recommendation is appreciated. Thanks all. |
   
jaspire (jaspire)
Intermediate Member Username: jaspire
Post Number: 2938 Registered: 7-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 9:55 am: |
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Hi, Any one has comments or review about this CCC? Please advise. Thanks! |
   
arisz (arisz)
Member Username: arisz
Post Number: 580 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:26 am: |
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Anyone has any comments on Agape Little Uni @ Tampines? I'm thinking of sending my boy there. Would like to know more as their fees is quite steep. |
   
mysteque (mysteque)
New member Username: mysteque
Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 10:18 pm: |
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My son is at agape tampines infant care. I find that the environment is very friendly and clean.Join a month ago. Teachers are loving too. My son initially cried for the first one week every day when i send him to the infant care. Probably he is in a total strange environment. But he is ok now. Yah, agree the price is a bit steep but it is all worth it for my little angel.  |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1464 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 3:27 pm: |
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Hi Mummies, me gal is in this CC since its opening... she's in N1 now... so far so good... find the teachers are nice and responsive, attentive to my requests. The place is bright and clean... |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1465 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 3:31 pm: |
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infant care - the ic is teacher angline (hmmm hope me get her name right..). she is the RN and 2 more care givers... clean env too... ya ya full air-con in this centre.... now agape has divide the infant into - mobile and non-mobile... those who are able to crawl/ walk will do their activities in another room which is a new one... whereas others will be @ the main room... |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
New member Username: s_l
Post Number: 65 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 3:56 pm: |
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Hi Reiner, Any idea about the curriculum? What do they do in play group and nursery level? What makes them "special" from other CC which charges an average of $600~? Also, for that price we can almost put our kids in a Montessori school. Is it worth it? |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1471 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 4:27 pm: |
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didnt visit any Montessori sch, so no comments. We put our gal there coz its opp block. cut down the logistic arrangments. they use letterland to teach phonics, CC will give out the term topics/ curriculum before start of ea term... langages, maths science, music arts... gym kidz every tues... there's a Montessori @ Kallang CC, ve you visited there? |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
New member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 97 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 12:49 pm: |
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Hi Leereiner, May i know what is the name of the Montessori at kallang CC? My son is currently in MMI but we are transferring him to agape at kallang cos of logistics issues. He is in N2 now. very scard that he can't adjust...... |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1572 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 3:48 pm: |
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is bestcare http://bestcaremon.com.sg/contact_us.htm when your boy will be agape? |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
New member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 7:19 am: |
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Hi Leereiner, I've not heard of Bestcare montessori. Anyway my son'll be in agape in oct |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 141 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 8:41 am: |
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Hi, Just to check: Is AGAPE is Christian childcare centre? 'Cos i realise the teachers made the children sing the grace with fingers interlocking and thanking GOD and birds etc before meal times.We are in fact glad that they are teaching the children to show appreciation when they thank the auntie and teacher for the preparation of the food. We are just hoping that they can fine-tune the song and singing, i.e. do away with the word “God” and the “praying” gestures. We support the values they are inculcating in the children, We just feel that if a centre wants to remain a neutral image, their practice should be in line with what they put upfront.(It's not on their website or school that they are christian affliated) It is only fair for the consumers, especially since it is not like walking into any shops, we can just leave the product and go, as mentioned above, most families refrain from changing the care-giving organizations as far as possible. The supervisor told me that for the past 14 years since agape is founded, no parents have ever complained about this. I dun think this is the issue here. The parents may be ignorant abt it? or even if they know, they may just eat it as their children are at their mercy? I would have accepted it better if i have known that agape is a christian childcare centre and i would respect their way of doing things. In this case I feel so cheated. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 140 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 9:07 am: |
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Hi Eileen, As far as I know, Agape is not really a Christian CCC and they don't preach and teach the bible but their owners are Christians. However, most people will know the word AGAPE is linked to Christianity. AGAPE = The love of God or Christ for mankind. The moment you step into the centre, you'll see bible phrases. So even if they don't preach to the kids, you know that there'll be some Christian influence there. I was there when they sang the song before meal, I thought it was really cool. Maybe I did not catch it totally but I only heard them thanking the teachers etc... didn't hear about God. Definitely I did not see the kids with the praying gestures and the teachers did not force them to put their hands together for sure. Perhaps some kids are doing that cos' they do it at home...Besides the saying grace part, I don't think there are much Christian practise there. |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 142 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 10:30 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, "Agape is one of several Greek words translated into English as love. Many have thought that this word represents divine, unconditional, self-sacrificing, active, volitional, and thoughtful love. Although the word does not have specific religious connotation, the word has been used by a variety of contemporary and ancient sources, including Biblical authors and Christian authors. It was expropriated by some Christian writers and used in a specifically Christian context, leading to a belief that agape is a Christian word.[who?] Thomas Jay Oord has defined agape as "an intentional response to promote well-being when responding to that which has generated ill-being."[citation needed] In his book, The Pilgrimage, author Paulo Coelho defines it as "the love that consumes," i.e., the highest and purest form of love, one that surpasses all other types of affection. Greek philosophers at the time of Plato and other ancient authors have used forms of the word to denote love of a spouse or family, or affection for a particular activity, in contrast to philia—an affection that could denote either brotherhood or generally non-sexual affection, and eros, an affection of a sexual nature." from Wikipedia In summary, the word Agape does not belong to christians. It is just that they use it more often to interpret God's unconditional love. so i feel that the centre should not expect parents to know that it is linked to christianity. As for the bible proverbs stated, I view them as very general statements like " Teach your child where he should go...." which is correct want. They didn't state things like " Teach your child that he should head to the direction of the Lord..." I am perfectly fine with whatever the statements so long as it is not a direct display. Teachers do ask them to say the grace though they didn't force the kids but which child wants to be the odd one out? I watched them do it. They do put their hands together with fingers interlocking. Their grace is also pasted on one of the walls of the 1st classroom. I think the most important thing is the management insists that theirs is not a christian ccc but their actions speak otherwise. Even if it is a christian ccc, i dun mind but i feel that we parents have to be informed in the 1st place, either verbally or through their website, etc. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 142 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:18 pm: |
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Hi Eileen, Yup, AGAPE is the Greek word for Love. Just like what the paragraph said, it is been used mostly in Christian context in modern days now. I didn't say that it belongs to Christianity. What I said was it is linked... Just like some words such as grace, praise etc. The moment you see a center/shop name XXX Grace or XXX Praise, you'll relate it to Christianity though the word is not a "Christian word". And I believe that most if not all parents will check out the meaning of the name of the centre that she is going to send her child in if she is not already familiar with it. A quick search thro' google will probably show a list with more than half linked to Christianity. And yes, even if the bible phrase does not quote God in it, you know it is taken straight from the bible. You'll know there is bound to be some Christian influences in this centre. You can't say that just because the phrase doesn't have God in it, it is not a religious connotation. During the interview, I did ask about the background and there I knew that it belongs to 2 Christian owners and that even though they don't teach or preach the bible, they use the fundamental. Anyway, I am just giving my opinion. Hope you are not offended in any way. Suggest you either talk to them again and ask them exactly what other practises they have and if you are really uncomfortable, switch your child while it is still "early". I also just switched my kid after 1 year plus at another centre. The 1st month is always hard but it beats having to put yourself thro' the unhappiness for the years to come. |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 145 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 11:08 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, Thanks for your advice. I've actually contacted MCYC about this. They said that they are very firm that all centres should remain secular and neutral. Have forwarded the song to them as well. MCYS will speak to the centre's directors and get back to me in a week's time. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1876 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:45 am: |
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Hi, this is what my girl has been singing, agape upper boon keng branch: Hand together, close your eyes Thank you for the food we eat, yum yum thank you for the birds, sing-a-ling-a-ling thank you for everything, yum yum join us teachers, join us friends lao shi qing chi, xiao peng you meng ding chi qie qie lao shi, qie qie aunty... BUT the lyrics pasted on the wall @ the meal area, did stated the word "GOD" there... |
   
Lee May (l_may)
New member Username: l_may
Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:14 am: |
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my gal also in agape... i not a christian myself but i feel that it is a just a thank you song. my gal likes the centre alot as the teachers there are really good and nice, they will alway keep me updated about my gal who use to cry when she first join the centre. they teachers really help me in getting my gal to settle down. and now she can do many thing which she have not done b4 when she was not in childcare centre. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 146 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:58 am: |
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Hi Lee May, That's great! Which group is your girl in? My boy in PG. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1895 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Hi Hi EiLiYa, see you here hor!! keke... hmmmm... your boy has settle down @ agape eh? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:39 am: |
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Hi Reiner, You saw me at the CCC!?! Kekeke... But I usually go at 0730... Yap, my boy is settling very well. He cried after 2-3 weeks there for around 2 weeks every morning. When I park my car, he'll cry and point to another exit at the carpark and scream "Go there go there!" Hahaha... Now he is doing very well. Every other day he'll say, "I want Teacher Pauline..." He'll also ask for his 2 other form teachers, Li Lao Shi and Teacher Jessica. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied. He is picking up Mandarin more nowadays...phews. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1900 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:01 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, last week me gotta bring my girl to agape myself as dh is out stationed so get the chance to see your son lor... keke... great to hear that your son has settled down and even wants the Teachers leh... Good Teachers will be loved by the kids lor... Chinese/ Mandarin - my girl too... now she speaks mandarin more but still with the funny/ wierd accents lor... like "lau hong" lor... and she understands what we are talking - dh n me use mandarin to communicate lah.... hmmmmm..... think we gotta learn other ways to communicate, you know sometimes there are things you wont want our kids know... keke... think me has hogged this thread too beside the "Boon Keng Mummies" one... |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 148 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 3:23 pm: |
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Hi Reiner, I didn't realise this is a different thread until you mentioned! Hahaha... When I saw you replying I still thought it was the Boon Keng Mummies thread...so blur of me. Ya boy...I'm shocked by my son's sudden increase in Chinese vocabs. Yesterday I told my hb in Mandarin to take out the watermelon (xi-gua) after my son finishes his dinner (cos' once he sees fruits, he won't eat his food). Then my son raised his eyebrows and said, "I want to eat xi-gua". Strangely my son's Mandarin pronunciation is pretty accurate. And it sounds more "pure" than ours. The way he said Fei1 Ji1, Hou3 Che1 is quite pure. The 1st time he said, "Mummy, I want Hou3 Che1", I thought he wants to drink water!! Hahaha... I think becos' his Chinese teacher is from China so his accent abit Chinese type. We have to start learning a 3rd language now...maybe Japanese!?! Hahaha...but not to worry, our kids will definitely pick up the new language faster than us! Kekeke |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1905 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:06 pm: |
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ya ya me is the hogger again... wonder what action/ how agape gonna handle this Thank YOu Song eh? my girl mandarin has that "ang moh" accent lor, everytime she speaks, me gonna laugh but gotta hold back lah. get worse when sing the mandarin song... keke... anyway my IL understand her lor, got a mix of mandarin and hokkien when she talks to them. told dh he gotta learn cantonese lah, since my girl knows eng, chinese n bit of hokkien yah. doubt she comes across cantonese. parents gotta keep a language by themselves leh... hmmmm  |
   
Snowball32 (snowball32)
Junior Member Username: snowball32
Post Number: 214 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 5:41 pm: |
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Hi Mummies, My daughter's also with Agape CC but at the CCK branch. I agree with you that Agape is strong in teaching Chinese literacy. My daughter attended their 3-hr PG class for 13 mths before I switched her to fullday care. Within 6 mths of attending the PG class, she can communicate fairly well in Mandarin with my in-laws. |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 156 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:14 am: |
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Hi, My boy who just went in for a month also loves Teacher Pauline! My boy was transferred from another childcare and we transferred him to agape due to logistics. When he was in the previous cc, it was helll for us bringing him to school. But at agape, I was really shocked when he rushed me into bringing him to school every morning, and was even reluctant to go home when i wanted to bring him back earlier! |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 150 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:46 am: |
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Wow Eileen, good to hear that your son loves his new CCC. My son too will tell me almost every morning when he wakes up, "Mummy, I want to go Bear-Bear". Bear-Bear is Agape cos' of the bear motif all over the CCC and their uniforms. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 151 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:49 am: |
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Yesterday was the 1st time I heard my son sang the thank you song but ya know what he sang? "Xie xie Lao shi, xie xie aunty....xie xie Teacher Pauline..." I think that teacher must be very well liked by most of the kids. She does seems like most very caring type. |
   
Lee May (l_may)
New member Username: l_may
Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 8:11 am: |
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My gal is still not able to sing the song yet cos she still very young, but i agree with all of you that the teachers there really got a way to make the kids happpy, my also feel very very happy that when she reach the school and seeing the teachers there who gives a warm welcome every morning. |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 953 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 1:45 pm: |
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Hello Mummies, My baby goes to Agape Kallang, IFC class. I agree the teachers are caring and I like the school's environment. Baby is always happy and smiley every morning too.  |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 177 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 9:00 am: |
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Hello Precious_bb, that's nice Their IFC does look very clean and well-taken care. Also there are so many toys there. |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 954 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 9:59 pm: |
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Eiliya, is your baby at Agape Kallang too? Yup lotsa toys to entertain the kids, not much complain from me so far, the teachers and principal tries their best to take care the needs of every baby. I'm glad to found this CC near our place. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 187 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:59 pm: |
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Yes Precious_bb, my boy in PG. We just switched him to Agape in Sept. It wasn't open last May when we were searching for a CC. But I am really glad we finally did a switch as we can tell he is really much happier here. He'll ask to go to CC, ask for his teachers etc. Whereas at the old CC, if I ask if he wants to go CC, he'll always shake his head and say no. So far it has been good for me except that I wish the teachers would speak less lah/leh/loh... |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1987 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 9:42 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, do you know is there any change of Teachers for your boy class for Yr2010? ya ya the teachers english is more singlish bah... like me say my girl has lots of lah/leh/hor/loh so me gotta correct her everytime leh... oopppss... you see mummy is using singlish too ha!!! |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 190 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 4:09 pm: |
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Hi Reiner, I'm not sure about the change in teacher. My impression is that the teachers for PG will stay in PG, N1/2 will stay at N1/2...so every year they'll see "new" teachers...right? I'm going for the MTP session and mine is on the 7th Dec. Will probably find out more then. Did you sign your girl up for the Speech & Drama class? Not cheap ya... I know...I also try to avoid using singlish. Once I accidentally said, "Ya lah!" to my hb. And immediately my son said, Ya lah~". I freaked out and quickly reminded him not to say that! Hahaha... we have to watch outselves before we can teach them....haiz. Not easy. The teachers' lah/leh/loh made me rather uneasy. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1991 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 9:19 am: |
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HI EiLiYa, Teacher Grace is not taking my girl N2 class next year leh... But Huang Lao Shi will be. But me heard sthing- that this may change... Ya me prefer to have the same Teachers thru out till K2... coz the Teachers will know the kids very well... And the kids do not have to go thru the "orientation" with the Teachers every year. Ya signed up the S&D... ya agreed not cheap, still need the registration fee?? puzzled!! additional cost per month... anyway do not wanna let my girl be the odd one out.... MTP= meet the parents session right? my girl N1 class is on 4 Dec.... hmmmm.... no chance to see you... keke.... told dh about the Teachers english, but he's okay since agape is the most ideal one - just next blk of our house.... so cant have best of both world... sigh!!! btw where do you stay eh? |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1992 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 9:20 am: |
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Teacher Pauline english is good, at least me have not heard of singlish from her... correct me... |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 958 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 11:20 pm: |
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Hi Eliya and LEereiner, your kids are in PG? My baby will join PG in another 8 months, by then, your kids would have graduated to N1. They have speech and drama for PG? Do they have play gym too? I remember seeing play gym when I was there. I'm glad that we found agape too. Initially wanted to sign up for another CC nearby, luckily we didn't! hee.. I'll be going for the MTP session for IFC group, wondering what video will they show |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 194 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 11:41 pm: |
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Leereiner, Ya, my son simply adores Teacher Pauline. The reason she doesn't speak singlish is becos' she is not S'porean. Hahaha... My parents stay at the UBK estate...they were enbloc from Blk 20. I stay at Cassia Cres...see my recent posting! kekeke... http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/messages/353635/3248013.html?1258427221 How about you? Were you enbloc from there too? Maybe we were neighbours previously... ;D Hi Precious_bb, My son is in PG but promoting to Nursery next year. Leereiner's kid is in Nursery level already. All levels have playgym...different timing. All 20 mins each. I saw it on a paper the CC gave me when I first joined. When I was looking for a CC, Agape wasn't open yet. Otherwise I would have put my son there straight. I know this is a better CC. Even my mum notices alot of difference in my son's behaviour towards going to CC. He always talk about the CC, teachers and ask to go CC early in the morning... At the previous place, he used to sulk before reaching there. Hehe Didn't know there is going to be video?? |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 1994 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:01 am: |
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ya enbloc from blk 6 to blk 2D... me in west side before married to east ... keke... err... is your boy previously @ this Crxxxive @ BK yah? Whao!! Teacher Pauline has great impact on your boy, man... Hi Precious_bb, keke... EiLiYa "knows" my girl... although she's in N1, but her built is more of PG leh... very small size and she's fair... |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 960 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 8:29 pm: |
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Hi Leereiner & Eliya, It's nice to meet fellow mummies with kids going to the same CC They have playgym for IFC too? I never notice it, maybe tomorrow I will ask teacher! Eliya, did you put your child at Crea***e S***r previously? Teacher Pauline, I find her good too. Actually most of the teachers seems good. Current Principal also very good. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 195 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 9:01 pm: |
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Yup, Leereiner & Precious_bb...my son was previously from C*******@BK. I was having thoughts about switching him some time back but just didn't get to do it until this Sept. Too much mozzies and insects bites every other day. Of cos' there are other issues too. So far I am really pleased w Agape. Most impt reason is my son really likes this new CC. Though he can't tell me why or how, but I can tell he is happy. |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 285 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:47 am: |
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Hi all, I'm planning to put my coming baby next year in Agape. Any advice on their service on infant care?? And how is the rates like? Also, my son is turning 4 next yr. How is the curriculum like for N2. Is there any website for Agape? tks!  |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2001 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 9:36 am: |
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Hi Kiki80, your son is Yr06 eh? my girl will be N2 Yr10 yo... Which cc is your son @ now? why change? http://www.agapelittleuni.com/ you go down to agape see see lah, then you feel the exact place & Teachers mah... no use for us to tell you yah... call the pricinpal diana sng... better still if you just pop by, then you can see the real thing in the cc... Hi EiLiYa, my girl was @ that Crxxxive @ BK too... haha... cos we didnt like hapxx toxx @ the community club. so the next ava choice will be that cc yah... when agape opened, we just swtich her immed w/o much thinking.... haha!!! next block to our hse, what's to think yah... ha! Yeah... HAPPY.... ya agreed... the most impt thing is that our jr is happy to go to cc... HAPPY learning, happy playing, happy eating... etc... keke |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 205 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 - 3:45 pm: |
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Hi kiki80, Yup, you should make an appointment with them and tour the place before committing. I did that too. Have a feel of the place for yourself. Hi Leereiner, Oh yea, I remember you mentioned on the other thread that your girl also from CS infantcare. I'm just like you, there wasn't much chose. I went down to the community centre too. In less than 5 secs, I thought in my heart "no way!". The place is too dirty for my comfort. After looking at the condition, I didn't even bother to listen about the other things already. I made an appointment with the in-charge the day before and she said she'll wait for me. When I reached there the next day, she was not there and she didn't even tell her staff. The staff just looked blank and then allowed me to quick tour it. After that, neither the in-charge nor anyone called me. Anyway, I won't bother too. I don't remember the name of the childcare but if you're referring to the nearest community centre near your estate, we're refering to the same one. |
   
Lee May (l_may)
New member Username: l_may
Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 11:42 am: |
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hi everyone,,, yes i went the to the cre**** centre too. it really bad. lucky my gal was in agape, i also hear that it going to be full soon for the preschool side. wah this cc really good. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 209 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 8:34 pm: |
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Hi Lee May, CS was not bad when my son first joined...around May '08. But they've slackened alot. Haiz... Just glad that he is out of CS now. Yup, Agape seems to be very popular and so far I heard of good reviews mostly. |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 286 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 11:39 pm: |
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Hi Leereiner, My son next year also N2. But I have enrolled him with Cannan Churh Kindergarden, the one at st george. My mum is taking care of my son, so moreover, all my nieces and nephew had graduated from Cannan, so I continued there. I am asking Agape is for my new arrival next yr. I am planning to put my 2nd one in Agape infant care, cos my mum is not able to take care for me. Also planning to shift back to Boonkeng, as my mum stays there. CreatXXX stXX do not seems to be good. I also heard of many dengue cases there, cause my brother stays that blk. Tks for the advice. I will go over Agape and take a look. Wonder how is their rates???
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Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2010 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 - 8:48 am: |
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Hi kiki80, cldnt rem the rates for infant... think after the 600bucks sub, gotta pay another 700bucks per month... |
   
donroxx (donroxx)
Junior Member Username: donroxx
Post Number: 365 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 6:47 pm: |
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Hi Mummies, Any one send their babies to infant care at the Kallang branch? urgently need to find infant care for my boy as his caregiver broke her arm. appreciate any feedback. |
   
**xen** (xenden1812)
Member Username: xenden1812
Post Number: 1202 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 6:52 pm: |
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hello, I am new here... Anyone child is in PG/N1? Will the teacher give them activity sheet to do? My boy has been there a while.. Thinking if there are lessons conducted? I don't see much lesson gg on... Not sure if it is juz the start of school as in onli Jan or it is always like tt... Upon asking, they said they need time to settle down the crying babies instead of having classes.. Thinking wad will happen if there are always crying babies ard? No doubt tt the teachers there are great... Anyone can advise? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 308 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 10:08 am: |
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Hi Xen, My son is in N1 this year. He joined last Sept in PG. At the end of the year, we had a parents meeting session and they returned us all the activity sheets and workbooks. They have their own Agape workbook for each kid and the contents were stuff like colouring, numbers, letters, shapes etc... all from Letterland. For what I know, the lessons start at 9am with story-telling, art & craft, physical activity...all half hour each. Then they'll get ready to wash-up and have lunch. After that they'll nap until 3pm where they'll have other activities. What time were you there when they were still settling the kids? When my son 1st joined last Sept, he was the only new kid there and I brought him there for a few morning at around 9.30am and the kids were all settled. They sat around the table waiting for the lessons to start. No one running around or making a fuss. I guess becos' in Jan there are a no. of new kids that's why they need more time to get them used to it. |
   
**xen** (xenden1812)
Member Username: xenden1812
Post Number: 1203 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 10:34 am: |
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Hi eiliya, Thanks for sharing. Probably it is me.. thinking if they did conduct class. I was there first few days but din really see them conducting classes. Prob really becos of crying kids. My boy is in another centre (agape). I was there from 8.30-10.30am the first day of his sch. They were singing songs 9-10plus.. But guess like wad u said, they prob need time to settle the kids.. I went to one centre (not agape) during shortlisting, the kids were drawing & learning "circle". My boy onli joined them for 10mins.. till now he still rem drawing circle in the air.. That is why been thinking if there were lessons conducted during my absence.. Today my boy was crying before he reached school.. So poor thing.. hope he will adapt soon |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 314 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 4:06 pm: |
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Hi mummies, Anyone following your kid to the excursion to Chinatown? They encourage parents of PG & N1 to go but I don't want to end up being the only mummy there. Kekeke.... |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 288 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 2:04 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, My child also in agape now. But he is not taking his breakfast every morning, and not use to the lunch also. Whenever dinner time, he gets super hungry. How do you ensure that your son eat well? Also I notice that aside from the menu they stated of the variety of food every morning, they are serving cornflakes almost every morning. Are you aware? |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 204 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 8:04 am: |
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Hi, My son's also in agape. I think they did not stick to the stated and promised menue. My son kept asking for noodles for dinner cos he said they served rice everyday, except for the occasional macoroni which is very rare. I asked the principal, Ms Eng, but she said that the kids do not like other stuff like porridge and noodles is a mess??!!!!!maybe more mummies can feedback as well? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 317 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 10:46 am: |
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Hi Kiki80, Actually I also don't know if my son is eating enough also cos' we're not there to see. Feedback from the teachers that he eats his food. My son dislike bread and refused to touch any. So I informed them if they are serving bread for breakfast or tea, please give them something else. They obliged. Every morning I'll let my son drink milk before he leaves for cc in the morning cos' I won't know if he'll skip eating the breakfast there. I used to order the Marigold milk at the beginning but had stopped. So far only once or twice my son came home cranky cos' he was hungry but other than that, he is normally ok. So I didn't want to worry too much. You should talk to the teachers and ask them for suggestion if your son is not eating enough. Do you order the Marigold milk? Perhaps you can also bring your son's favourite tea-time snack and ask them to serve at 3pm? And then tell them to put the leftover in the bag so you'll know how much he ate? Hi Eileen, I have no idea they give rice every single day... Hmm, I'm not surprise if kids doesn't like porridge cos' I hate it as a kid also. Keke...but still my mum will "force" me to eat and I'll eat it. So there is really no reason not to make porridge just becos' kids doesn't like it. In my opinion, when kids see their friends eating porridge, they'll all eat. I'll probably ask them about it when I have the chance to. So boring for them to be eating rice everyday also. |
   
**xen** (xenden1812)
Member Username: xenden1812
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 9:50 am: |
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Dear mummies, guess we also face the same prob in havin our child feed well in school. My boy also not eating bfast in school... For lunch - how u ensure ur child eat well? My boy so far i guess also ate v v little in school... Any advise? Also wanna find out how do you see the progress of your child in sch? Do u ask the teachers often on ur child progress? i am pretty keen to knw the progress of my boy but don't knw how they will feel if i ask them that often since tt he is new in the sch.... Any advise? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 318 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 10:22 am: |
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Just some updates... A gas explosion happened at the coffeeshop besides NTUC yesterday morning. The place was quite badly burnt and 2 workers were hurt in the explosion. The kids at Agape were evacuated immediately and they were brought to the void deck.
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eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 207 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 7:53 am: |
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Does anyone have any idea how come the centre supervisor Ms Diana Eng, resigned so suddenly? think the centre has a change of 3 supervisors already. The supervisor now is their pervious one who has been promoted |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1047 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 12:37 pm: |
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Hi Eileen, Yup, I'm also curious why Ms Diana left. She's really good and I kinda like her. I didn't have a chance to ask them. hee. Anyone knows? My boy is in IFC now, going to PG in a few months time. Thinking if I should switch CC, cus I find their PG fees quite expensive. Wonder what activities do they have in PG? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 320 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 2:00 pm: |
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I was tempted to ask the teachers when they mentioned about Ms Diana's departure. But I guess they won't say much except for "personal reasons". Hi precious_bb, You can find out the cirriculum from the in-charge. They have activities like story-telling, art & craft, playtime, gymtime, maths, chinese etc... Btw, anyone signed up for the Speech & Drama class? I heard some rather negative feedbacks so not sure if I should continue with it. Additional $60 every month... |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 3:28 pm: |
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Hi Eiliya, Yup, I plan to ask about PG schedule soon, still haven’t got the time to check. Everyday I am rushing rushing rushing. =P. Is your child in PG? How many PG teachers do they have now? Is gymtime inclusive with the school fees? Additional $60 for speech & drama is quite xiong…Anyway thanks for sharing the photos about the gas explosion, the kids are so cute If I know Diana is leaving, would give her farewell gift to Thank Her, cus she’s good. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2187 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 4:49 pm: |
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Hi EiLiYa, care to share what are the -ve feedback of the S&D? ya 60bucks is heavy leh... me "talked" in another thread of this S&D fee too... my nephew S&D cost is 60bucks per term leh... From the same centre- APPLE PIE hor.... aiyo, cant rem the Teacher name, is a male one but not Teacher Max leh... Hi Precious bb, There are 2 names in the PG attendance list ya... The PG will go to N1 leh, except for their meal time bah... saw my niece joins the N1 when me spot check on one of the days... |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1049 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 5:22 pm: |
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Hi Leereiner, $60 for a term vs. $60 for a month. Aiyoo…pocket really big big hole already. Why the big difference? haha. Yah, Eiliyah, please share the –ve/+ve feedback on S&D classes please =) Wow, you still have time to spot-check. Wished I could find time to spot-check too, but I never pay them surprise visit before. Basically I just trust the teachers there, my baby seems happy there so I didn’t ask much questions. There are only 2 kids in PG class? Is that why they join N1 classes for the activities? Isn’t it too ‘advance’ for them? This Friday they have CNY celebration. Wished they invited the parents too, cus I’m off this friday..hee.. |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 321 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 9:13 am: |
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Hihi Precious_bb & Reiner, The feedback I got was that some of the kids are not really learning much during the S&D. For the N1 level, some of them will just wander around during the lessons or just not paying attention. Also, the lessons seems to be like any other lessons they have in their current cirriculum and being only half an hour long, it seems inadequate. So for this level, it is not so beneficial. I might ask them to video down the lesson tomorrow and if it is really a waste of money, I'll withdraw my son next month. Reiner, Your girl in S&D? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 322 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 9:37 am: |
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Hihi Precious_bb & Reiner, The feedback I got was that some of the kids are not really learning much during the S&D. For the N1 level, some of them will just wander around during the lessons or just not paying attention. Also, the lessons seems to be like any other lessons they have in their current cirriculum and being only half an hour long, it seems inadequate. So for this level, it is not so beneficial. I might ask them to video down the lesson tomorrow and if it is really a waste of money, I'll withdraw my son next month. Reiner, Your girl in S&D? |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2190 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 9:38 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, ya my girl in the S&D lor... e-mail and talked to Diana of the fee difference... she just brushed off "management decision" leh... so me think that agape will get some out from this S&D fee bah.... wonder who use to pay the fee via cheque eh? pay to who? agape or apple pie?? me via cash leh... Hi Precious_bb, ya me too "eng" yah to spot check... keke... clearing annual leave mah... re: CYN celebration>> parents are not invited this time leh... but you still can pop to spot check bah... make use of your leave... keke... opppsss... gotta let our kid to wear RED tmr hor... wow!!! video down the S&D session... me want too leh.... me want to see how good is the Teacher and the kids reaction to it... see any NEW teachers? principal keeps on they are hiring but no see new ones coming in leh.... the number of kids is increasing but the teachers remain so the ratio is getting bigger... me is uncomfortable with this... what do you think? |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2191 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 9:43 am: |
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Hi EiLiYa, how come you have the photos of the agape on that day of explosion eh? just kpo lah... |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 324 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:59 am: |
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Hi Reiner, I'm sure Agape gets a cut out of it. If not why would they bother to introduce this new activity. Shucks...I forgot to ask the teacher to video the program today. Nvm, will do it next week. There's still 2 more lessons before end of Feb. Ooh, are we suppose to let the kids wear red? How come I was not informed... On the day of the explosion, my mum was just bringing my son to CC when she saw the teachers and kids all running out of the CC. She was going to work so asked my bro to come downstairs and help out as she saw there were too many kids to handle and most of the teachers were carrying the infants. So my bro took the pictures while waiting there with them. A few aunties in the estate also came down to help them watch the children. That's why you see my son in the pictures was still wearing his sandals and showing off his bag to his classmate. Hahaha.... |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2195 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:33 pm: |
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ya understand that getting a cut of the S&D fee, but 60bucks/term vs 60bucks/mth is a lottt leh... err... saw there's given a pink paper notice/memo leh... to let kids wear RED tmr bah... ya can spot your boy in the pics @ first look... keke.... found that the fee is unjustifiable if agape teachers to children ratio is same as stated in mcyc guideline... is way to high yah.... hope they gonna do adjustment for it .... |
   
IceCreamLover (qpclaire)
New member Username: qpclaire
Post Number: 15 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:44 am: |
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Hi, Anyone has any feedback on the agape centre at Cashew Heights and Choa Chu Kang North? Im interested to enroll my son there when he turns 18 mths in a few months time. |
   
Snowball32 (snowball32)
Member Username: snowball32
Post Number: 507 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 11:09 pm: |
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Hi Leereiner, I agree with you that the fee hike is not justifiable. I did ask the principal at my DDs'centre at CCK on the reasons for fee hike. One of the reasons given was to lower teacher to child ratio. However, I am still not seeing this happening. My DD1 is in N2 and they have 23 kids to 2 teachers now and my DD2 in PG (currently only 3 of them & they join the N1 group). Total 17 kids to 3 teachers (but, I heard from another teacher today that the Chinese teacher has just left and we were not informed). Do not know when the new teacher will be joining. I am monitoring my kids' progress and if there are any improvements done in the next 3 mths. If not, I am considering to transfer my kids to other centres. Hi Ice Cream Lover, My DDs are at CCK branch. So far so good, both my kids adapted quite well to CC within 1 mth after they joined the CC. But, my only concern is as mentioned above. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2208 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 9:32 am: |
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Hi Snowball, see you here yo... my girl N2 has 18kids to 2 teachers... and the Chinese Teacher has changed twice leh... and the English one is newly joined lo... Ya my niece is in PG, sama sama as your DD2.. the PG has 2 kids so they join N1, with 3 teachers there.... but service not good leh... my niece got quite a number of nappy rashes ya... @ kallang, changed principal too leh... 2 resigned liao and back to the original one who has promo to manager post but back to this centre just to bridge the "empty" lor... need to get the new one in before may'10 ya, as she is due in may leh... no security!!! me got no choice... me seems like to be @ their mercy lor... no other CCc nearby.. only 3 hrs PAP one... my Mil cant handle 3 kids @ a time ya... |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 327 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 5:09 pm: |
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Happy Lunar New Year everyone! Just bought my son to CCC this morning after a long break. Surprised to see that he is looking forward to going back. He has been asking for his friends and his teachers for the past few days. Hur hur... Saw another new kid today at N2 but not sure if he is really new or have been around since beginning of the year. Saw a new Malay teacher too. I agree with you all...the no. is getting too big for my comfort too. I heard there are more kids joining the PG/N1 group. Hmm...previously I did a switch cos' the other CCC has high turnover and high student ratio to teacher. If Agape is going to be like the previous CCC, why should I be paying another $200+ more? Reiner, Even though I have other alternatives near my place, I don't think I would want to switch my son again. Think of the pain the poor kid is going to go thro again. Haiz. Hopefully this is only a transit period and improvement is on its way. Btw, your niece just had a birthday celebration izit? Couple of weeks back my son came home and kept singing, "Happy Birthday Megan..." Hahaha.... |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2215 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 5:25 pm: |
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Ya, Megan had her birthday 1st week of Feb... with a 2-tier cake... mickey mouse... from pine garden... nice design and taste good too yo... how to press agape for better teacher to kids ratio... sure they gonna bring out mcys guideline out bah... malay teacher?? for which group eh? or just assistant eh? and the space is getting smaller too.... haha... me is full of complains leh... once the CC becomes popular, here's comes the "problems/complains"... keke |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 289 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:43 pm: |
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Hi EiLiYa & Leereiner, So Diana have just left suddenly without notice? Did the school inform both of you of the explosion? I was not inform at all on the 4 Feb. Not until i see what you post now. Basically, the school daily breakfast is almost cornflakes. They served rice for 5 days except Thursday. My son dislike the cornflakes from the school. Yes, I have actually packed breakfast and snacks for him daily, but I cannot be packing for 3 years. The school really paint a beautiful picture of their menu, but was not follow. Even for tea-break, when they say 2 slices of bread, is actually half of a piece of a normal sunshine square bread. For lunch, the rice they give is only half of a small bowl. For me, I am really concern if my son is taking enough. Everyday dinner he comes back eating like super vacuum cleaner.. haha.. As Leereiner, as for the Chinese teacher, Lee Lao Shi is only temp. Yes, Suba is new. For what I have encountered in the first month, when I ask Lee Lao Shi and Suba on what my son is taking, both of them give me different answer.. When I ask Lee Lao Shi why Huang Lao Shi left, she tell me she on leave, but actually Huang Lao Shi told me personally she went another school who offer her higher salary. When I ask Suba when new chinese teacher come, she tell me next week, but actually they still interviewing when I ask Diana. Although my son only started in N2 for one month in Jan, I noticed that the school is really short-handed of teachers, and not full attention was given. There was one time, Pauline took over the English class for 2 days I think, and Lee Lao Shi have to juggle N2, K1, K2, and even PG for one of the day when PG has not Chinese teacher. & everytime when I talk to Lee Lao Shi about how is the class, what my son do, eat, and his response, what Lee Lao Shi and Suba tell me is different. also Lee Lao Shi do give me a few times of feedback that kids do not like Suba. Also, the school bag zip spoilt on the 4th week of school. When I ask Lee Lao Shi, she tell me just spoilt. But Diana did a change for me after we feedback to her. My son was sick for twice. Fever for 1 wk in Jan, then for another wk in Feb. So I have decided to stop letting him to go to school, no choice, but wasted the school fee for Feb since I giving notice. By the way, my son has not been going to school for 2 wks, and there is not even a call from school to ask him how is he? I think this is terrible. They are not even concern for him, and most important for other kid as well, cause they shld find out if he is having any illness like maybe HFMD, etc.. But mothers, no worries, he is just having normal viral fever... |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 290 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:51 pm: |
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Hi all, By the way, I am selling away my son school uniform. He has only worn for 4 weeks cause as I mentioned, he sick for 2 weeks in this 2 months (jan & feb). The uniform still very new. Size 26 (the old cutting before agape change to the new cutting, cause their new cutting 26 now is actually their old cutting size 24) I am also selling away his school bag, only use for 5 days. hahaha.. cause change new one mah.. If anyone is interested in his mattress or mattress cover, do let me know also. The mattress cover, I have only use one. The other one still wrapped nice nice in plastic. In total, items for sale: 1) 4 sets of BOY, size 26 school uniform 2) 1 agape school bag 3) 1 mattress & 2 mattress cover Can email to kiki_c01@yahoo.com.sg if you are interested! |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1053 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:50 pm: |
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Hello Mummies, Yes I notice there're kinda short-handed. Hope this is just transition period and things get better soon. If not I don't find the school fees worthwhile. If they wana charge a premium, they should provide better service and standards. Don't really like the idea of combining PG with N1, cus they should be learning different things. Sigh ! |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1054 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:51 pm: |
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kiki80, how do you get to know about their daily menu? Indeed, they have very delicious menu on paper..haha |
   
eileen ang (eileen_ang)
Junior Member Username: eileen_ang
Post Number: 208 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 8:23 am: |
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Hi everyone, It's quite good to see everyone giving feedback cos initially i seem to be the only one with queries, and everyone seemed so happy with agape. Actually other than all those mentioned, I also realised that they didn't update the communications booklet regulary as well. Since last Nov, the only update was the CNY outing. So I'm really puzzled what my son is doing at the CCC. Everyday I'll ask him about the things he learnt in school. Previously (He was from another CCC) he would tell me everything he did but now he told me daily that he learnt nothing in school and i'm rather worried about it. Another issue is that they have children from sengkang who joins them daily. I think the number of children are really too many for them to handle. Yes, MCYS has a guideline. But that also depends on whether the teachers are able to handle that ratio or not. I've seen for myself that some teachers are getting impatient with the kids and they actually raised their voice at the children when the children asked for their attention. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2218 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 8:52 am: |
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Hi Kiki, ya agape had given out memo that Diana is leaving and Ms Lai is taking over temp only... they are still looking for one leh... Huang Lao Shi?? But Diana told me Huang Lao Shi gotta go back home to take care of her daughter who is ill, quite serious type ya... Ya communication book Teacher Suba / Li Lao Shi dont update this as for my girl "happening" @ there leh... When she was in N1, Teacher Grace feedback/ "communicate" a lot lo.... My girl still said she likes Teacher Grace yah... Food @ agape... hmmmm... my girl will ask for plain bread, a full sq piece is given leh... as for lunch, find the serving is okay... coz changed to new kitchen auntie, my gal has no special treatment lo... keke... the previous one, who knows my gal's eating pattern eh... so she'll give more chicken and soup if these are that day menu... and no veggie for her one... ya know kids shouldnt picky lah, but at least she enjoys the makan session yah... **sob** now no more lo... and the Teachers dont "hong hong" her to eat more ya... as they always said my girl doesnt eat much lo... ^^ me want the old agape back leh^^ hmmmm... muz go spot check again... |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2219 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 8:58 am: |
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hmmmm... maybe me should go take up early childhood course ya, and get agape to hire me.... keke... then me can be the spy lor... how come a few version of Huang Lao Shi resigned eh? cant they be honest to us? what's wrong for hoping to another CC? Hi Kiki you mean you already withdraw from agape? so where you gonna put your boy eh? |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 328 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:35 am: |
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Hi Kiki, The departure of Diana was informed thro' a leaflet left in my son's bag. So was the explosion. Of cos' I already knew about the explosion right away but I also saw the leaflet in his bag a few days later. Is Huang Lao Shi the thin Chinese-national teacher? She was previously from Creative Star. I didn't even realised she has left though come to think about it, I haven't seen her for quite some time. Not only the bag is faulty at the zip, all the pants are of inferior quality. I feedback to Diana once and she told me of other problems with the uniform...such as the teacher's polo shrank and the kid's polo are smaller than usual in size. Hahaha... I took all my son's pants to the seamstress to change the rubber bands. He was pulling his pants everyday and complained to me that his pants was big! As for the breakfast, I can understand why they give smaller portion as some kids cannot finish. But they should also put additional portion in front of them for those who wants more and also encourage them to have 2nd srving if they want to. Anyway, my son hates bread so I can imagine he probably skip breakfast most of the time. That's why I always make him finish a bottle of milk before leaving home. My son also eat like an industrial vacuum cleaner at home!! I think he hardly ate much in CCC. For the past 5 days I was home with him and I fed him as per usual. He put on 1 kg in that 5 days... but just one day in CCC, he lost 400g liao! And I always weigh him at night right after his dinner & milk. Haiz...there goes my effort. Oh btw, have you all saw the notice about the stopping of formula milk for N1 kids? I'm pretty upset about it cos' already they are not eating so much. I think if they stop giving them the formula in the afternoon, it will just make things worst. Haiz...anyone feedback to the school already? |
   
Snowball32 (snowball32)
Member Username: snowball32
Post Number: 513 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:07 am: |
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Hi Leereiner, My DD2 at the CC is doing quite ok. I have told her teachers that she has sensitive skin and need regular change of training pants. So far so good. But, my DD2 pooed in her training pants on a few ocassions. Guess she prompted the teachers but they did not react fast enough to her. But, I do hope that they will split the PG and N1 group soon. The Ctr Principal told me that she will split the class when she has enrolled 2 more PG kids. These 2 days I was on leave and brought my kids to CC myself. Realised that the PG/N1 class has strink to 15 kids only. Hi Kiki/ Eiliya, For my DD1 (in N2 this yr), she can eat double portion of her lunch if she likes the food. She has been with them for 6 mths now and she has in fact, put on weight. For breakfast, I let her bring plain bread and a few cheese cubes to CC as she may not always eat their food as she doesn't like bread that has spread on it. For DD2 (in PG), teachers feedback that she can finish 1 bowl of porridge and she drinks some FM before naptime. Both my kids also eat like a vaccum cleaner for dinner when they are home. For N1 kids, the CC still gives them milk. For my DDs' CC, they stop giving them FM from N2 onwards. But, you can order pkt milk which they provide daily during tea break. Maybe, you can feedback to the principal on your concerns that your child may need FM. Agape Bag - My DD1's bag's zippers gave way after using it for less than 3 mths. Uniform - Material used is no good. I bought 4 sets of new uniform for my DD1 and now there is also holes on the t-shirts (even tho' I make my maid handwash her uniforms). Teachers' turnover - I think for my DDs' centre, teachers' turnover rate not so high. But, effective this Jan, they have a new principal (transferred from another ctr) as the last principal kinda got promoted to do some plng work for the gp of CCs. Have to see how this principal perform. |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 293 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:08 am: |
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Hi mummies, For the menu, I actually took photo from the school, so I am awared. Then, I called everyday, asking detailed question, what my son eat in morning, lunch cause I usually called during nap-time. Then they will tell me I don't know cause I come in later timing, but that shows being form teacher of your class, be it Suba or cover teacher LiLaoShi, both of u shld have communication, somemore my son is new joined. Imagine I call and ask everyday.. & no initiative from them to call me initially, not until I hearing different stories like, Suba say my son eat full bowl rice, then LiLaoShi say eat not much, I feedback to Diana, from then onwards, they start writing on communication book. For why do I know short of teachers, cause I ask who teach in morning then afternoon, cause I want to know my son progress, cause you all know what, he does not want to stay in class and keep hanging around different teachers. So it was then I hear from the teacher something like today whole day chinese lesson, etc lah.. then who take over.. I mean that for N2. For the milk, I actually bought outside & let me son tried, but apparently, he don't drink so I never subscribe. But are you all aware there was one week or so.. everyday the kids are given Yakult which is no good, cause Yakult can cause phelgm. I was surprised when Suba told me this. then I told her tot was Mon-Wed-Fri, she says not sure but auntie given everyday. After that then she told me, probably too many Yakult leftover, so the auntie dont want waste just give. Honestly, is not the way I feel. They still shld see the kids health, but of cause no choice lah, cause kids see Yakult, all eyes bright! haha I dont have the leaflet about the explosion. Only have the pink & green leaflet. Anyway, till now, they never call me. I has been 2 weeks my son nv go school. I am transferring him to the 3 hrs class at canaan church at st george there. My 2 nieces & nephew all studied there but all graduated lah.. haha.. Actually, I would says the Suba & LiLaoShi are not too bad teachers. Is more of the school leading system, & coordination. Also, I believe they have many internal problem. Else why Diana leave so suddenly. I know she just got married not long ago & she staying at Sengkang also. So how is th new principle? I better call & ask about the deposit refund & the things I would be getting back as committed by Diana. Anyway, so anyone interested in getting my son's school uniform, bag, etc.. Do let me know, will give a good price. |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 297 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:22 am: |
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Hi Snowball32, I guess is the teachers & auntie that plays the part. Perhaps the auntie at your centre that cook better food, & teachers are more caring & sensitive. |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 298 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:30 am: |
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Hi Leereiner, I guess the centre is really in a mess now. Just spoke to Ms Lai & told her about my son. She still tot he is in school, until I told her already 2 weeks he nv attend, n she totally not aware. I ask her how come Suba or LiLaoShi nv inform, she says Suba left also. My goodness..!!! & LiLaoShi no inform. Now is another new Teacher. Probably the Malay teacher you all says.. This is really terrible.. Management problem! |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 299 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:43 am: |
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Hi all, I have some Agape School items for sale: 1) 4 sets of BOY, size 26 school uniform (only worn for a mth) 2) 1 agape school bag (only use for 5 days, as change to new school bag when old one spoilt) 3) 1 mattress & 2 mattress cover (mattress cover 1 set is brand new) Pls email to kiki_c01@yahoo.com.sg if you are interested! |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2221 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:44 am: |
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so me want the previous kitchen auntie to be back ya... she knows the kids eating pattern, esp my gal's class... she knew how much rice my gal cld take, which dish is her fav... she knew another boy who cld eat a lot, always save up the dishes for his 2nd serving lo... attentive right? but hearsay due to her attentiveness, the chinese teacher didnt like her, said auntie was kpo lo... so auntie resigned... **sob** be it the uniform/ bag, the quality is bad lo... my fil gotta sew the bag ya... and the tops are "qi mao" and we gotta re-do the rubber band for the bottoms... any name tag given eh? to be sew on ? my niece yet has hers leh... how to put my #2 there huh? me gotta spend 1k for 2 kids @ agape CC but with this kind of std, **heartpain, faint leh** Hi Kiki the replaced principal is not NEW one. she is the 1st principal of kallang>> Ms Lai. but she gotta promo to kinda manager. so new ones came in yah. Now Diana has left, she comes back to take over while searching for new one... forsee problem lo, if the new principal doesnt come in in Mar... as Ms Lai is due in May leh... HOW leh?? HUH?? CCK also change principal?? how come like this ya? @ kallang the Teachesr & Principal turnover rate is HIGH leh... so sianz...!!! |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2222 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:48 am: |
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Teacher Suba also left?? when?? how come not informed eh?? |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1055 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:22 pm: |
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Wow, so many feedbacks, appreciate it. Mummy who can do 'spot-checks' do share here. I can't cus I don't work nearby. Leereinar, how many kitchen aunties have they changed? Is this the 2nd one? Snowball, quite a few IFC kids will promote to PG soon. So most probably they will separate PG/N1. But I still don't see why they should combine in the first place?? They should learn different skills and have different activities. Is this the practice elsewhere too? I didn't know of all these problems, cus the teachers at IFC are always there and my baby seems OK there. So I think its quite okay. But going to PG soon, I find the fees steep, must be able to justify right? |
   
Precious bb (precious_bb)
Member Username: precious_bb
Post Number: 1056 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:24 pm: |
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Any IFC mummies here? |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 301 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:46 pm: |
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Hi, I not sure when she left. I believe should be 2nd week of Feb. Cos my son last day was 5th Feb. then he sick for one week. So we still see Suba. O.. Ms Lai is due May. Me too. Hmm.. the centre really bad. I chose this ctr because I tot I want to put my 2nd one there, but really suay for me. My son went 2nd day, Huang Lao Shi left, then change. Keep changing teachers are bad for the students honestly. But the new English Teacher also damn IRRESPONSIBLE. Teachers are supposed to mark attendance everyday. If she sees my son never come 2 weeks, shld't she feedback & ask. This shows that simply bochap. Lucky I withdraw already. Else I dont kw how my boy will suffer under such care. For IFC, honestly, there are times only left with teacher Angeline when it comes to evening time. You can see the babies crying n not attended. there is also one times, I saw this little girl cry, she is from PG i think, but dont kw why they put her in Baby room playpen, then later carry her out & put her in Diana room, she sitting on the floor. I believe she is new. If you see from the photo above in the explosion, she is the girl at the corner in the pink crocs. Is she any of your kid? As for the name tag, I got it like 1 month later. End Jan i think. If you purchase the uniform, the first 4 name tags come with the uniform. Meaning, $26 ($1) is the name tag. I never sewn on the name tag, cause just in case I withdrawing my son, I still can sell the t-shirt. |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2225 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 2:01 pm: |
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ya the current one is 2nd kitchen auntie... Kiki the girl with big round eyes? She's N1 begin of this Yr.. her name is Inessa (smth like this lah).. so your #2 boy or girl eh? just kpo lah... What happen to agape eh? managment, teachers, principal... >> problem leh... then me wonder what do the Teachers teach eh? Does my girl really "learn" in this kind of "changing env" eh? there are 2 girls have withdrawn too, think end Jan lor... |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 329 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 2:05 pm: |
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Ooh...is this girl new? I think she is in N1 as she is in my son's group. Her name is Innessa. I know cos' she is also one of my son's good friends. Hehe... |
   
EiLiYa (s_l)
Junior Member Username: s_l
Post Number: 330 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 2:09 pm: |
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Sigh...I was pretty impressed with them when my son 1st joined in Sept '09. Not over-crowded, place is clean, teachers are nice, curriculum is interesting and all the mummies are so happy with them. Just a span of 6 months time they are becoming another CS!?! Oh no... should we write a feedback to the management and signed by all of us? |
   
Leereiner (reiner)
Intermediate Member Username: reiner
Post Number: 2226 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 2:20 pm: |
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things change after ms lai left?? wanna see how she tidy up these problems lo.. FEEDBACK... count me in, yo |
   
kiki80 (kiki80)
Junior Member Username: kiki80
Post Number: 302 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 4:11 pm: |
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Hi Leereiner, 2nd one also boy lah.. Your niece megan is also my son friend. He did told me about the bd party also. Anyway, you gals can help me keep a lookout see who wants to buy uniform or anything. No point I keep. And they still quite good condition. The bag still very new .. haha.. I wasted whole Feb school fee, & many other cost like toys for encouragement.. really suay lah.. their curriculum seems not bad.. showing wat they teach etc.. but as said, will it be just paint a nice picture... haiz.. |