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Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 235
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 9:49 am: | 
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Dear All,
I wish to start this thread for the discussion, comments, and suggestion,etc for the PHONICS.
Please kindly contribute your views..for all related to PHONICS..
Eg:
1) When to Start? What Age?
2) Any Phonics School can recommend?
3) Comments on Letterland Phonics?
4) Which type of teaching materials?
5) Any idea which type of Phonics materials use for PAP-PCF?
Zillion Thanks. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 321
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 2:03 pm: |
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Hi Worry mum
thanks for starting the thread. I'm keen to know more too! |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 106
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 4:24 pm: |
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Hi WorryMum
I got the Letterland catalogue and suggested home package to get. You should get a copy too, PM me for the contact. The co. offers a presentation at their office. The worksheets and songs CDs appeal to me, they have a teacher's guide too which i think may not be necessary. It's really up to the parents to set the pace and conduct the activities based on the child's interest.
About 200 preschools use Letterland. If mummies have the time, i think we can start off from home and accelerate the learning.
I started phonics with my dd when she was about 2.5 yo after she's familiar with the letters. Nothing very special, i asked her to repeat the sounds of the consonants after me and she sort of memorised them already. So now looking for resources to use at home.
How old is your kid? |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 236
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 4:59 pm: |
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yeah... glad that u gals have shifted to here..keke
Lena, already PM you.. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 323
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |
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Hi Worry Mum
Can let me have the contacts too?
Email: mwsc13@singnet.com.sg
Thanks |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 103
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 6:07 am: |
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Hi WorryMum,
Just sharing some experience:
1. There's no age restrictions for kids to learn phonics.
i. For very young kids, the parents might want to introduce them letter sounds.
ii.As for older children, there's no need to teach them all the letters before teaching them to blend and read. For instance, you can teach them s,a,t,n,p,i. With these few letter sounds, the parent can proceed to teach them to blend and sound words such as pat, sat, pin, pants etc...
2. For parents planning to use phonics, I would recommend Jolly Phonics cos it associates the letter sounds with actions.
3. Letterland is fun but I read that in UK, some kids experienced problems in recognising the letters at the end of the day, i.e some kids cannot recognise the letter sound "C" without the clever cat. Also, they might not be able to link the letter to its sound. Rather, some kids only understand Annie Apple says "a" sound but cannot assoicate the letter A with making the "a" sound. But letterland is still popular in UK.
4. I'm not sure what teaching materials you refer to but there are some phonics readers that are helpful for beginners. some examples are Bob books and Step into Reading. You might also want to try the "The Reading Lesson".
There are basically two methods to teach phonics - synthetic and explicit (I think). Currently, the US and UK are promoting synthetic phonics. Another thing to note is UK and US have some slight differences in the letter sounds.
Hope it helps. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 326
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 9:29 am: |
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hi Serenade, just want to say thianks to u for the info. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 327
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 9:38 am: |
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Hi Serenade,
Can i ask a few qns?
1) Do u get yr jolly books in Singapore or directly from UK?
2) U mentioned Bob books? Is it Bob the Builder or u are refering to something else?
Sorry for my ignorance. I m trying to find out more cos like to introduce to my boys.
Thanks in advance for yr help! |
hoho03 (hoho03)
Member
Username: hoho03
Post Number: 829
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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hi mummies,
hmm.. anyone know what is the difference between zoo-phonics and letterland?
thks! |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 107
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 3:54 pm: |
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Serenade, I think there's some truth that kids may have problems recognising the letter sounds with the letterland characters. The characters are always used to illustrate the sounds.
I suggest mummies whose kids are starting sch to find out what phonics programme the sch is using so as to complement the learning better. |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 105
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 7:10 pm: |
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Hi Steffie, you'r welcome. Just sharing what I know. I bought my books through UK cos it's cheaper for me. Note that the UK & US versions have different prints. Bob books are different from Bob the Builder. If I'm not wrong, you shld be able to find them in Kinokuniya. Otherwise, you can find them through online bookstores. I believed Kinokuniya carries certain range of Jolly phonics and Letterland in their stores. You can try checking them out.
Hi hoho03, what I understand abt zoophonics is it's similar to Letterland. The letters are associated with animals as well as actions. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's from US whereas Letterland and Jolly phonics are from UK.
Just to highlight something, phonics is rather complicated as it gets more advanced. It goes beyond just teaching the 44 sounds. So, if you are intending to teach your kids phonics, it's good that mommies try to do some work. But ultimately, I think it helps one's pronounciation and spelling too. Just my two cents' worth.  |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 191
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 7:28 pm: |
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I'm not phonics trained, how can I teach my son phonics?
Any good guide on training parents phonics first? |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 328
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 8:58 pm: |
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Hi Serenade
Thanks again for the valuable info. Will do some reading first |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 238
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 9:59 am: |
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Hi Serenade.. Thanks for the info..
aa, me too .. not trained in Phonics, wonder whether can I teach?
Steffie, had PM you the contact recd from Lena.. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 330
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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Worry Mum, thanks, i got it.
Me not trained either, but will try |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 193
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Worry Mum, that's why I thot its better to send him to classes, where the teachers are trained in this field. but now, think maybe I can try teaching myself? |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 106
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:21 am: |
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Actually I knew nothing abt Phonics when I first started. But it is not really as difficult as what some of you think.
I have yet to come across any books on training parents phonics. I'm interested to find out too. However, there are a few books which guide parents on teaching phonics. Eg. The Reading Lesson, Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Lessons.
I know of a book distributor who conducts phonics workshops (including Jolly Phonics) quite often. If you are interested, I can pm you the details. Unfortunately I can't offer any comments on the workshops as I have never attended any.
Perhaps, you can try the Leapfrog Phonics Series to get a feel of phonics. There are 3 DVDs in the series. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 331
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 7:54 am: |
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Hi Serenade
Can i have the contacts? Thanks again |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 241
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 1:27 pm: |
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Hi Serenade, can PM contact of the distributor?
Thanks. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 112
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 3:08 pm: |
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Ladies
M getting some Letterland products to start off.
Let me know if u are buying also. Free del above $200 |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 333
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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Hi Lena,
So u will be buying from tumbletots directly? I m still researching which to use, so will not join u this time.
Appreciate for asking us. |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 242
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 3:15 pm: |
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Lena, ya.. me too.. just like Steffie, am still doing research on this.. dont know which one to start with...
Thanks. |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 109
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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Hi Lena,
Does Francis carry the Living Code Software? Any idea how much is it? |
dancestrella (dancestrella)
New member
Username: dancestrella
Post Number: 37
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:26 pm: |
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Hi mommies,
Great thread... been learning a lot from all of you. I'm wondering if any of you are doing both phonics and GD word cards with your children? Is it confusing? (Think GD mentioned in his book something about no need for phonics cos more interesting to learn words..?)
Should I just stick to one method? Appreciate any views/advice. Thanks! |
Alison (over50)
New member
Username: over50
Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 2:44 pm: |
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dancestrella,
some children take to phonics and some dun. so it really depends on the child. but if the child is responding to phonics. it will b best to do both phonics and learning of high frequency words. there are 220 sight words that you can teach a child. 1st you may want to teach the 1st 50 high frequency then move on to middle frequency.
as for phonics, when the child is reading, he / she can use the phonetic techniques and pronounce the word. How much can a child rem? There will be more n more new words he will come across, if he reads a vast variety of books. so the gd word cards gives only limited voca to the child.
as for me, i am teaching my dd phonics and using readers to teach her to read. her school is also doing the same. the good thing is that we are using different readers so it is not so boring. apart from this, reading TO your child is v impt.
hth |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 113
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 3:04 pm: |
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totally agree with Alison. Sight words are important. You can print them out from this site.
http://www.kidzone.ws/dolch/preschool.htm
My dd actually does sight words better, think she memorise them, she can road signboards, even papers headlines ;)
I do not know if this VCD i played when she was 10 mths old played a part (your baby can read)but she enjoys watching it and i help to revise by making flashcards of the words that appear in the VCD.
I want to start Letterland because her preschool will be using it and i thought it would be good if i introduce some letterland characters to her for easier learning. |
Linda (poochapoocha)
New member
Username: poochapoocha
Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 3:09 pm: |
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Found this website quite good - free downloads of stories: http://www.progressivephonics.com/index.htm |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 196
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 3:22 pm: |
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I did not teach ds phonics, but he seems to pick them up from the mini-laptop which I bought for him.
When he see words, he's able to read out each letter sound, but not seem able to link them up as a word. How can I teach him that?
Anyone can advise? |
dancestrella (dancestrella)
New member
Username: dancestrella
Post Number: 38
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 11:30 pm: |
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Hi Alison, Lena, Linda,
Thanks for replies. Very useful!
Been doing some research on sight words tonight... think they're quite difficult to teach cos very abstract. My almost-2-yr-old can't even talk yet (babbles alot though), loves to read books with me but I think it's more for the colorful pics...so I think I gotta keep on inputting.
The downloads from progressivephonics look excellent. Will get them printed out in color soon to try them out with my son. It looks like a good package for those who want to intro phonics together with sight words. |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 199
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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Tried to download the Book 10 (full version) but always encounter error, anyone successfully downloaded that? Or izit my computer? |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 344
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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Hi aa,
I download yesterday, no problem at all |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 250
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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Haiz.. me started from Book 1 already having problems on downloading..  |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 200
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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Managed to download book 10 already.
problem caused by my adobe not updated  |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 348
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 2:59 pm: |
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Worry Mum, i dun have problems downloading all the volumes. In fact is quite easy and fast, is yr adope as what aa mentioned not updated? |
Baby Chong (babychong)
New member
Username: babychong
Post Number: 41
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 4:38 pm: |
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Hi Serenade,
Pls provide me the book distributors for phonics workshop. My email cmc_2626@yahoo.com.sg
Tks. |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 253
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 10:08 am: |
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aa, Seffie, no leh.. updated version in the office.. anyway tried at home.. successfully downloaded.. thanks.. |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 256
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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Think this website also not bad..
http://www.starfall.com/n/level-a/learn-to-read/play.htm?f |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 115
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 7:34 pm: |
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Hi Worrymum, Steffie & Baby Chong, already sent you the details.
cheers |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 358
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 8:22 pm: |
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Hi Serenade,
Yeah, I got it. Thanks! |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 258
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:13 pm: |
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Serenade, Thanks.. got it.. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 136
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 2:33 pm: |
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Was supposed to buy Letterland but still dilly dallying with the order, tempted to know about Jolly, anyone going for the workshop? |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 264
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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Hey, just found this web.. dont know whether the phonics is it cheaper.. any comments?
http://www.wonderbox.com.sg/books.htm
http://www.wonderbox.com.sg/early%20readers.htm |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 378
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 4:00 pm: |
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Hi Worry Mum,
I tried to compare the Jolly books prices from UK amazon to Kino Sin. Is about 20 % difference. (excluding shipping). Not sure about wonderbox
Lena,
Have not gone for the talk yet |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 137
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 4:36 pm: |
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Worry mum
Wonderbox has some very interesting stuff and they guarantee lowest prices. The thing is some books are available from bookstores like popular, for eg the Ladybird readers(peter n jane series) which i used is cheaper when i buy them at pop with my member discount card.
But but but I spotted a few books i like for teaching Math. Free del above $75, pay cash or cheque upon delivery. Anyone keen to share? My items cost about $40
Steffie
Wonderbox does not have jolly. |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 269
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:53 am: |
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Just recd the Letterland catalogues yesterday..
Lena, how's ur thread on the "used" readers? Me thinking to get 2nd hand too.. As for the wonderbox... still thinking maybe getting 2nd stuff will be much cheaper.. BTW, where do u stay? My friend interested to get the books .. but also below $75.
Aa, will consider sending my son to Zoo phonics once the timetable is suitable..
Dancestrella, Am doing the GD flashcards with my son all the while.. yes, i think they memorise the words.. He is able to read some simple books on his own.. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 141
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 2:17 pm: |
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Worry mum
I am at AMK, how about your friend?
Hey what makes u decide on zoo? what are their key features?
Will stick to letterland cos her school will be using it. so far, no one responded to offer used letterland |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 387
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 5:48 pm: |
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i got the catalogue from jolly. I'm keen in the jolly DVD but is 19.95 pounds!
anyone have watched the DVD before? |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 271
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:46 pm: |
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Lena, sorry.. my friend stays in CCK, AMK a bit too far for her.. as she is preggie now..Thanks anyway.
I decide to go Zoo phonics cos is convenient for me and nearer to my house and the fees are more reasonable. NO other reason..
Already check with the PCF centre that my son will be attending next year, they dont use LETTERLAND nor JOLLY, they uses their own IT program from EDNOLAND, and they dont sell it now as we are still not entering the school yet.
So will continue to search for cheaper materials.. for the time being.. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 149
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:18 pm: |
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No prob, worrymum.
I got the letterland books. my dd seems to like it ;} |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 274
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:15 pm: |
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Oh.. good to hear that.. so how much you bought? how do you find? any comments? |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 209
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:25 pm: |
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Did anyone buy Leapfrog Phonics DVD?
Pls comment. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 157
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 4:26 pm: |
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Worry mum
I got letterland softback, pretty interesting, will try to do one letter per week, need lotsa discipline though haha
Also got the First activity workbooks, these will wait till she's familiar with the letterland characters.
Spent about $50.
I didn;t get the readers, will cost about $350 in all. Using the ladybird peter n jane series, cheap and serves well. |
tamarind (tamarind)
Intermediate Member
Username: tamarind
Post Number: 2312
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 9:29 pm: |
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aa,
My girl watched Leapfrog Letter Factory and Word Factory once everyday, after about 1 week, she can remember all the letter sounds, and know all the vowels. She is starting to read very simple words, like cat, bat, mat...
Letter factory is very good at teaching all the sounds. Word factory is good at introducing the basics of how to read words, but I feel it doesn't give kids enough practice for other sounds like *un, *ig, *st and so on. There is a 3rd DVD, Code Word Caper, which teaches the rules of phonics like the silent E, also very good. |
ora (ora)
Junior Member
Username: ora
Post Number: 190
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 1:37 am: |
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Hi mummies,
thanks for all the info.
just wondering, how old are your kids.
at what age (ave) do they learn to decipher the pronunciation of words? lets say 3 letter word like cat, dog etc.
thanks |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 126
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 7:36 am: |
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Hi Steffie, I got mine at 16.28 pounds (including taxes, excluding delivery charges). The sounds are taught through puppets. Looks quite boring to me but my ds loves it a lot.
Hi tamarind (senior),
The leapfrog DVD series is not meant for teaching phonics. Rather, it's just an introduction to phonics for kids and adults. Btw, there's a fourth Leapfrog DVD - Learn to Read at the Storybook Factory, which introduces punctuations etc.
Hi Ora,
My ds can sound out and blend all 3 letter words by 29 mths old. It took him less than a week to do so.
And currently he (37 mths old) can easily segment (i.e spell) any 3 letter words. For words beyond 3 letters, it depends. He can segment words like stop, pants, hand, plant etc. He has no problem with reading long words like delicious, suddenly, hippopotamus, telephone, television etc...
There has been some interesting discussions on using flashcards with phonics. Personally, I don't use the flashcards methods, not even for sight words. Some parents may think it is a good idea to use both flashcards and phonics. However, some studies in US and UK have shown (in general) that kids who are taught to read words prior to learning phonics don't excel (as in the ability to read through phonics) as well as those who are not taught to read/recognise words prior to learning phonics. |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 127
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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Hi Ora, how abt your kids? When did they start blending and segmenting words? I read that kids can learn to read through phonics even before the age of 2. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 162
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 4:31 pm: |
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Serenade, Jolly sounds good, your ds has achieved quite a lot!
My dd does a lot of sight words, she seems to memorise them well and can read her fav books on her own, must be sight words cos i've never taught her to blend sounds. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 416
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 8:15 am: |
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Hi Serenade,
Jolly sounds good. In fact, I got a catalogue from them and I thought of getting the Jooly phonics handbook (u tried out before?. Thanks for all yr valuable info Not sure how I can master like u, phonics expert!
Tamarind, the leapfrod DVD sounds interesting. Maybe i will get it to learn more about phonics. Oh.. mummy is going back to school again ..... |
aa (happy_33)
Junior Member
Username: happy_33
Post Number: 211
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 9:02 am: |
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Tamarind,
Where did u get the LeapFrog DVD? Seems that Singapore is out of stock as had been looking around but everywhere I went told me is "OUT OF STOCK"
Any bought DVD from Amazon, can it be watch here? Previously my friend got me movies DVD from US, but do not know why cannot be watched. |
Steffie (dtwins)
Junior Member
Username: dtwins
Post Number: 417
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 9:23 am: |
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aa, really? OOS? so sad
I think probably due to yr dvd player. I know some DVD player cannot read certain code |
tamarind (tamarind)
Intermediate Member
Username: tamarind
Post Number: 2326
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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aa,
I ordered from Amazon.com. My friend tried it on her region 3 player and it works. I think the leapfrog DVDs are region free. I have sent you a PM.
Steffie,
Actually I myself never learnt phonics before. I also learnt a lot watching the leapfrog DVDs with my girl :-) How come last time they never teach phonics in school ? I had a very hard time learning English because I was from a Cantonese speaking only family.
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Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 129
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 2:20 pm: |
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Hi Lena, any good phonics resources will help greatly in the ability to read, not necessary Jolly. I know of a lady who taught her kids reading through Letterland with great success. Her daughter could read chapter books by herself at the age of 4.5 years old.
Steffie, I am still far from being a phonics expert. There's still so much stuff that I'm trying to learn with my ds. But I feel it's worth the effort cos I can see the pride on my ds's face when he can blend and read new words easily.
I do have the handbook. The handbook contains a lot of photocopiable materials and activities. It gives me a good idea on how to teach my ds. I got the Jolly Phonics Cards for my ds to practice too. One thing abt Jolly Phonics, it's not comprehensive as in it does not cover all the phonics rules and stuff. It covers only the basics - the 44 letter sounds, blending words & the silent E rule. And if you are thinking of teaching your twins blends (st, sp etc) and word families, then Jolly may not be suitable. |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 423
Registered: 2-2006
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Tamarind, yeah, phonics sounds so foreign to me. I have never learnt before in school. Looks like i have to order leapfrog thr' amazon.. thanks for yr info!
Serenade, I totally agree wif u. I felt so proud when they picked up something that I hav taught them So i dun mind invest the time and effort
In fact, this afternoon, i dropped by Kino, saw the Jolly handbook and some Letterland books. Most prob will go for jolly cos I find the letterland book over colourful, difficult to read. |
Lena (melmel)
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Username: melmel
Post Number: 176
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:57 pm: |
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Ladies
Just saw this:
A must-attend workshops for parents to help your child to become an efficient and fluent reader.
Conducted by trainers with vast experiences in preschool.
For more details, please check out website: www.sacece.edu.sg
There is one workshop coming up this Saturday, 22 July 2006. |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 442
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 4:06 pm: |
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Lena, Thanks for yr info! Unfortunately, have to bring my boys for enrichment class during that timing
Let me know the outcome if u are attending, okie? |
Lena (melmel)
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Username: melmel
Post Number: 178
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 4:20 pm: |
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steffie
weekends are my work days, sob sob... |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 446
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 5:22 pm: |
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oh.. u work in church? |
Cutie (cutiemax)
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Username: cutiemax
Post Number: 226
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:07 pm: |
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Hi Lena,
Thanks for the contact. |
Lena (melmel)
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Username: melmel
Post Number: 180
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 3:29 pm: |
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steffie
i teach primary sch kids during the weekends. so weekdays are my precious time with dd ;) |
Lena (melmel)
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Username: melmel
Post Number: 183
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 4:06 pm: |
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this place organises some workshops
http://www.september21.com.sg/ |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 464
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:28 pm: |
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Lena, thats great. can teach yr dd at same time
Serenade, i have ordered some jolly materials from UK amazon, it really makes a diff ordering thre as compared to buying from Sin. Then again, cos my friend is thre, he wil help me to bring back in Oct so i k save on the shipping costs. |
Apple0401 (apple0401)
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Username: apple0401
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 12:23 pm: |
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Would like to check on any phonics classes that I can consider for my boy who is 5 years now in K1. Teacher in his new kindergarten assessed that he is quite poor in his phonics. Appreciate recommendations pls. thanks. |
tamarind (tamarind)
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Username: tamarind
Post Number: 2349
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 8:12 am: |
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Hi Apple0401,
Don't they teach phonics in kindergarten ? You mean they expect children to already be good at phonics before they enter kindergarten ? |
Lena (melmel)
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Username: melmel
Post Number: 191
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 3:10 pm: |
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agree with tamarind, what's the whole point of schooling then? |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
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Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 293
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:00 am: |
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Hi, mummies,
Just Saw this
2 Sept 2006
Montessori - Simple Phonics Preparing an early reader
Language development starts early and continues to be a major part of the child's development for early years.
Learn how to teach your child:
- Sounds of the 26 alphabet letters
- Recognise elements in rhyming words
- Identify vowel and consonant sounds
- Distinguish word variants
- Develop word building skills
- Develop vocabulary
- Improve listening skills
- Develop sight word recognition skills
Venue: Suntec City
Time: 1pm to 3pm
Fees: $50 per pax
For further details, please contact:
Audrey Lee 92724413
10 Dover Rise #07-01
Singapore 138680
email audrey@asianparenting.com |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
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Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 294
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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Hi Apple0401, if this is the case.. very stressful leh..
Lena, Aa, Steffie, Serenade - think can't sent my child to Zoo phonics liao.. cos they are teaching as per Amercian base, and the school in Singapore are teaching Bristish base leh.. thought the trainer claimed that there's not much difference, but am scare that it will confuse them lah..
stressed..........clipart{kao_confused} |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 516
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:23 pm: |
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Worrymum, dont be stressed. Try to read more about phonics before u teach yr child. Look at Serenade, she also learnt from scratch. Most of us are like u, we have to start off somewhere |
Serenade (serenade)
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Username: serenade
Post Number: 146
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:52 am: |
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Hi Apple0401,
There are a few phonics sources you can try:- Mrs Sam's Phonics (but my sis finds the progress rather slow), I CAN READ, Lorna Whiston etc. I'm not sure what's happening to the preschool system in Singapore but my sister received similar assessments for her N2 girl. So, she has to send her to various enrichment classes such drawing (cos she wasn't drawing/coloring well enough) and phonics lessons. On top of that, she has to coach her chinese and maths at home too. I guess schools expect parents to play a part in pushing the kids to excel.
Steffie, you are one lucky mom to have someone to get stuff from UK Amazon. Generally, the UK items are much cheaper on UK Amazon than elsewhere.
Worrymum, perhaps you can try to assess the differences b/w US and UK's letter sounds and ways of teaching. |
Lena (melmel)
Junior Member
Username: melmel
Post Number: 199
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 3:48 pm: |
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Worry mum,
U mentioned that PAP is using ednoland? So the phonics prog will be something like an in-house one? I heard that PAP organises weekends phonics class for their students. Saw some kids rushing for those on Sats.
I am not too sure what phonetic differences there are bet US n UK but spelling wise, there are some glaring differences. E.g color, colour, centre, center etc. So have to take note. |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 295
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 4:29 pm: |
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Lena, yes.. PAP using in-house Ednoland. Spoken to the Marketing ppl at Ednoland, She said dont hurry the kids first on learning Phonics.. as they will confused later when the school teaches them. But am worried, like what Apple0401 said.. teacher commented abt her son. 
Yes, they do offer tuition class on Phonics for their students after school or during weekend, and is chargable.. so pathetic.. so young need to go for tuition class already ah..
From one of the exp mum, she told me that there will be some differences in both UK and US, she recommend Jolly Phonics to me.. am still waiting for her reply on the Phonics School name, so dare not to made any decision yet and try to searching more info abt it.. Scare that DS absorb different things..
Am in a Mandarin/dialect Speaking family.. so am difficult to blush up my English..(am a Chinese Stream student in Primary, then English Stream in SEC), like some mummies here, our school did not teaches us on Phonics leh... so now must work very very hard ... |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
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Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 296
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 11:14 pm: |
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Hi mummies, check these out..
http://www.readinglesson.com/abc.htm
http://www.readinglesson.com/goodys.htm
http://www.readinglesson.com/article1.htm |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 541
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 8:19 am: |
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oh why the teachers are not very encouraging.. btw, instead of PAP, do u think sending them to those playschool that has native english speaking teachers or at least those preschool has certain standards of english teachers make a difference?
Worry mum, thanks for the links! |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 297
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 9:14 am: |
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Steffie, cos am a FTWM, and my mum is looking after my Son, due to convenience for her to pick up my son, therefore, need to arrange sending to those nearby one. |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 545
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 4:21 pm: |
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oic. it make sense due to logistic issue, else can be troublesome |
shimmrs (shimmrs)
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Username: shimmrs
Post Number: 2018
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 5:12 pm: |
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hi mommies...
Good place to discuss on phonics introduction to our kiddos! Anyone here enrol your kids to PAP for Pre-Nursery, Nursery, K1 & K2? Care to share how's their phonics-teaching methods? Thanks-in-adv!
My ger who is 30mo now just dun seem to be ready to learn phonics. She is very poor in the pronounciation and in fact, uninterested.
WorryMum
Is that a seminar on phonics-teaching on Sept2? Anyone going?
Steffie
So which set of phonics materials did you get from UK? |
Worry Mum (worry_mum)
Junior Member
Username: worry_mum
Post Number: 301
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 5:16 pm: |
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Hi Shimmrs, yes. on 2 Sept - Workshop on Phonics..org by Asia Parenting.. Am considering whether to go or not... cos is Montessori, do look out the link on readinglesson that I posted.. think is useful to us too... |
shimmrs (shimmrs)
Intermediate Member
Username: shimmrs
Post Number: 2031
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 6:43 pm: |
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worrymum
huh? montessori-based? this is what my ger is learning in her current school. they only touch on phonics once or twice in a month.
ok, i will check on those links on readinglesson. thanks for sharing! |
Serenade (serenade)
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Username: serenade
Post Number: 150
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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Worrymum, you can find the Reading Lessons products at http://www.whoopeekiddies.com |
Lena (melmel)
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Username: melmel
Post Number: 203
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 3:06 pm: |
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Just to add that i am pretty pleased with the letterland book i got, my dd likes the characters in the book and wants me to buy some more! |
Steffie (dtwins)
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Username: dtwins
Post Number: 549
Registered: 2-2006
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Hi shimmrs, I got the jolly phonics from the amazon UK, is cheaper than getting directly from the UK jolly phonics.
Lena, glad yr dd likes the book. tats the most important thing.
Serenade, i got the jolly handbook alrady. but have not started reading. hope to do so soon |
SG_MOM (sg_mom)
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Username: sg_mom
Post Number: 99
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 1:00 am: |
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Hi Lena,
I've just PM u for catalogue on Letterland Phonics.
Tks. |
shimmrs (shimmrs)
Intermediate Member
Username: shimmrs
Post Number: 2079
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 1:53 am: |
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Steffie
Thanks for the info. I will check up Amazon webby UK. |
Serenade (serenade)
Junior Member
Username: serenade
Post Number: 157
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 6:46 am: |
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Hi Lena, my ds likes the Letterland characters too. Which books did you get? I have got the ABC & New Alphabet Adventure books. Thinking of getting the Bedtime Stories book too. Did you get the handbook as well? How do you find it?
Steffie, have a good time with your kids. I think they will enjoy the actions. |
LittleKid (littlekid)
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Username: littlekid
Post Number: 51
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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Hi Lena,
can PM me the catalogue on Letterland Phonics?
Thank you. |
smurf28 (smurf28)
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Username: smurf28
Post Number: 54
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:10 am: |
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hi Lena,
can u PM me too! |
hsee (hsee)
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Username: hsee
Post Number: 800
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 1:01 pm: |
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Hi Lena,
You got mail. Have juz PM u for the catalogue.....
thanks a lot :-) |
goldsparks (goldsparks)
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Username: goldsparks
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 2:08 pm: |
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Hi Lena
Pls PM me the catalogue too. Thank you. |
Alicia (yang)
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Username: yang
Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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Hi Lena,
can u PM me the catalogue on Letterland Phonics?
Thank you. |
IC_69 (ic_69)
Junior Member
Username: ic_69
Post Number: 235
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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hi
can you PM me the catalogue.
thanks |
kspl (kspl)
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Username: kspl
Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:27 am: |
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what is phonics?? good for bb development? |
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